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> Having a Google office with >400 decidedly well-compensated people move in would very much change the neighborhood and not for the better. i don't understand
by kmlx 7y ago
> Having a Google office with >400 decidedly well-compensated people move in would very much change the neighborhood and not for the better.
i don't understand this. so berlin would rather have poor citizens? how is that better for the city?
and how would >400 "well-compensated" people affect the city in anything but a positive manner?
has there been any sort of study as to how better wages affect a city?
- CathedralBorrow 7y agoDo you reject the entire concept of gentrification or is there something about this particular instance you have trouble understanding?
- odkamkfn 7y agoNot the parent poster, but I certainly reject the concept of gentrification, or at least reject it as something to be avoided.
- CathedralBorrow 7y agoThat's fair. And you presumably get that other people can have a different opinion so you probably wouldn't be flabbergasted when someone wishes to avoid gentrification. That's what I'm curious about re: parent poster.
- sangnoir 7y ago> I certainly reject the concept of gentrification What do you feel about non-resident Chinese nationals investing in real-estate in your city & driving up prices? I noticed HN tends to be ok with gentrification if it's done by well-paid geeks, but not when the same group gets priced-out.
- odkamkfn 7y ago"Gentrification is a process of changing the character of a neighborhood through the influx of more affluent residents and businesses." 1. I'm not a well-paid geek. 2. What you are describing isn't gentrification.
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- robert_foss 7y agoThere is a finite and already fully utilized number of domiciles. Adding 400 well off families would undoubtedly displace 400 not so well off families over time. All while jacking up prices of apartments/food/services for everyone. Where is the positive net effect for people here? The city&state will earn more tax revenue, but for the neighborhood there's nothing positive that's going to happen.
- odkamkfn 7y agoYou should look at actual gentrification studies - displacement is almost never as bad as predicted and usually ultimately everyone benefits.
- robert_foss 7y agoShow me the data.
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- mariorossi666 7y ago> so berlin would rather have poor citizens? not everything is about money I take "poor citizens" but cultural fecund Berlin anytime over "rich" USA cities with homeless people living on the streets while FAANG workers spend half of their huge salary on mediocre apartments > and how would >400 "well-compensated" people affect the city in anything but a positive manner? a city is not only (I would say not at all) the offices of big corporations. Berlin is also many other things like Köpi or Blu's graffiti in Kreuzberg that he removed few years ago because gentrifiers saw them as a way to keep the place "cool" and raise prices [1] [1] https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/dec/19/why-we-painted-over-berlin-graffiti-kreuzberg-murals https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/dec/19/why-we...
- robert_foss 7y agocultural fecund.. what an expression. /me swoons
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