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> if you’re experienced, like to “look under the hood”, and prefer software that does the minimum necessary, OpenBSD is for you. I've been using Linux as my pr

> if you’re experienced, like to “look under the hood”, and prefer software that does the minimum necessary, OpenBSD is for you. I've been using Linux as my primary system for 10 years now. Isn't it a bit exaggerated to group all Linux distributions together with ubuntu? I think of myself as minimalist (arch linux / i3 / tmux / zsh / vim), thus fitting the description, but I'm not convinced by the argument to make the switch. On the contrary, the article feels like I better be ready to donate a lot of money if I want the system to run as I want it to. > It’s uncompromising. It’s not a people-pleaser or vendor-pleaser. Linux is in everything from Android phones to massive supercomputers, so has to include features for all of them. The OpenBSD developers say no to most things. I'm not sure if that's a good thing or not. Doesn't sound very community driven. The security focus is probably the most interesting part here. I probably had the wrong assumption that most security-focused guys were on Kali linux. I'll need a bit more nudging to make the jump over.

llarsson 7y ago
Nor does the article state what the intended target even is. Typically, UNIX systems was for servers. And that is probably where security matters the most, too. Along with a conservative view on what hardware to support, it sounds an awful lot like a server operating system. So does the article claim that it is good to run an operating system that targets servers on your desktop or laptop?
- projektfu 7y ago
  Historically, I don’t think that’s the case. It was developed (after its computer game concept) to support online documentation production. Most of its installations were timesharing systems (e.g. Vax) until the workstation era when it developed the workstation/server split. Considering the proliferation of graphical interfaces on Unix in the 80s, it’s definitely a desktop OS.
- AdrienLemaire 7y ago
  > The only operating system I use on my computers is not Mac, not Windows, and not even Linux. > I’ve donated $3850 to the developers to help improve the OpenBSD port of Node.js, Elixir, Erlang, Anki, Ledger, and Qutebrowser. I'm pretty sure he's claiming it :) a port of Anki is not for servers ^^
cyberpunk 7y ago
We use kali for pen testing, not as a daily driver. I work in infosec and use OpenBSD as a workstation, bootable kali on a thumb drive for when I need some bigger tools. Does ZSH still contain a ftp client? If you like minimal you should check out OpenBSD's ksh (oksh on arch maybe?), it behaves exactly the same way bash does (for me) and things like dd if=/dev/mm<tab> actually work, which iirc still doesn't on zsh.. :}
- AdrienLemaire 7y ago
  I don't have any problem auto-completing file paths from a dd parameter. TBH, I didn't know about zshzftpsys, thanks for the knowledge transfer. Reading the manpage, I see > type `which zftp' and if zftp is available you will get the message `zftp: shell built-in command'. and I get $ which zftp zftp not found As long as I don't zmodload zsh/zftp (and I certainly don't want to), I don't see any problem with this lib, now is there ?

llarsson 7y ago

Nor does the article state what the intended target even is. Typically, UNIX systems was for servers. And that is probably where security matters the most, too. Along with a conservative view on what hardware to support, it sounds an awful lot like a server operating system. So does the article claim that it is good to run an operating system that targets servers on your desktop or laptop?

projektfu 7y ago
Historically, I don’t think that’s the case. It was developed (after its computer game concept) to support online documentation production. Most of its installations were timesharing systems (e.g. Vax) until the workstation era when it developed the workstation/server split. Considering the proliferation of graphical interfaces on Unix in the 80s, it’s definitely a desktop OS.
AdrienLemaire 7y ago
> The only operating system I use on my computers is not Mac, not Windows, and not even Linux. > I’ve donated $3850 to the developers to help improve the OpenBSD port of Node.js, Elixir, Erlang, Anki, Ledger, and Qutebrowser. I'm pretty sure he's claiming it :) a port of Anki is not for servers ^^

cyberpunk 7y ago

We use kali for pen testing, not as a daily driver. I work in infosec and use OpenBSD as a workstation, bootable kali on a thumb drive for when I need some bigger tools. Does ZSH still contain a ftp client? If you like minimal you should check out OpenBSD's ksh (oksh on arch maybe?), it behaves exactly the same way bash does (for me) and things like dd if=/dev/mm<tab> actually work, which iirc still doesn't on zsh.. :}

AdrienLemaire 7y ago
I don't have any problem auto-completing file paths from a dd parameter. TBH, I didn't know about zshzftpsys, thanks for the knowledge transfer. Reading the manpage, I see > type `which zftp' and if zftp is available you will get the message `zftp: shell built-in command'. and I get $ which zftp zftp not found As long as I don't zmodload zsh/zftp (and I certainly don't want to), I don't see any problem with this lib, now is there ?