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This is all good news. Just wondering about repairs globally as Tesla's start aging and they need to be repaired, or for whatever the current % of their vehicle

This is all good news. Just wondering about repairs globally as Tesla's start aging and they need to be repaired, or for whatever the current % of their vehicles require service year over year. They must have that info given the amount of telematics they generate AND that they are sole source for maintenance and repair.

natch 7y ago
With no carburetors, alternators, starter motors, fuel pumps, fuel filters, oil filters, oil leaks, gas leaks, exhaust buildup, spark plugs, timing belts, radiators, head gaskets, mufflers, rings, manifolds, belts... and with brake pads that last forever... it's significantly less maintenance. And Teslas are not designed to milk the consumer for repairs over the years; they are designed to convince consumers that electric cars are a better choice. The Model 3 is designed to last 1 million miles. So sure, it will be fascinating to see how they do... but that's like 25 or more years from now.
- kwhitefoot 7y ago
  > and with brake pads that last forever. Not true if you live in an area where the roads are salted in the winter. Then they don't last any longer than on an ICE car unless you reduce or turn off regenerative braking. I had to have two replaced at the last service because of rust for just that reason and the car is only four years old (Model S). Tesla's advice was to reduce regen in the winter so that the brakes get used a bit more. A colleague also suggests doing an emergency stop once a year in the summer on a dry road to scour the brakes, not tried it, no idea if it would really be effective.
  - natch 7y ago
    Yes exception for very cold weather when regen is limited. Not so much to do with road salting, just use of brake pads versus non use, although salt could help cause rust to disks, not pads, which could in turn affect pads. But yes certain conditions may vary. > Then they don't last any longer than on an ICE car unless you reduce or turn off regenerative braking. This makes no sense. Reducing or turning off regen would make brake pad wear worse, not better. As an owner I assume you know your stuff so typo maybe?
    - kwhitefoot 7y ago
      I was talking about the disks, sorry I didn't make that clear. If the rust is too extensive then the car will fail its periodic test. All cars in Norway must be tested every two years (first test when the car is four years old) and the condition of the brake disks is one of the check points. I agree that the pads will last much longer with regen but the pads are relatively cheap compared to the disks.

natch 7y ago

With no carburetors, alternators, starter motors, fuel pumps, fuel filters, oil filters, oil leaks, gas leaks, exhaust buildup, spark plugs, timing belts, radiators, head gaskets, mufflers, rings, manifolds, belts... and with brake pads that last forever... it's significantly less maintenance. And Teslas are not designed to milk the consumer for repairs over the years; they are designed to convince consumers that electric cars are a better choice. The Model 3 is designed to last 1 million miles. So sure, it will be fascinating to see how they do... but that's like 25 or more years from now.

kwhitefoot 7y ago
> and with brake pads that last forever. Not true if you live in an area where the roads are salted in the winter. Then they don't last any longer than on an ICE car unless you reduce or turn off regenerative braking. I had to have two replaced at the last service because of rust for just that reason and the car is only four years old (Model S). Tesla's advice was to reduce regen in the winter so that the brakes get used a bit more. A colleague also suggests doing an emergency stop once a year in the summer on a dry road to scour the brakes, not tried it, no idea if it would really be effective.
- natch 7y ago
  Yes exception for very cold weather when regen is limited. Not so much to do with road salting, just use of brake pads versus non use, although salt could help cause rust to disks, not pads, which could in turn affect pads. But yes certain conditions may vary. > Then they don't last any longer than on an ICE car unless you reduce or turn off regenerative braking. This makes no sense. Reducing or turning off regen would make brake pad wear worse, not better. As an owner I assume you know your stuff so typo maybe?
  - kwhitefoot 7y ago
    I was talking about the disks, sorry I didn't make that clear. If the rust is too extensive then the car will fail its periodic test. All cars in Norway must be tested every two years (first test when the car is four years old) and the condition of the brake disks is one of the check points. I agree that the pads will last much longer with regen but the pads are relatively cheap compared to the disks.