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>The media’s inability to articulate the proposition’s purpose may have led to voter bewilderment, as illustrated in the CBS article, which features a Californi
by jml7c5 7y ago
>The media’s inability to articulate the proposition’s purpose may have led to voter bewilderment, as illustrated in the CBS article, which features a California resident who asserts: “I don’t like Daylight Saving Time. It disrupts me every fall.” Given that DST begins in the spring, this Californian probably meant to assail Standard Time but inadvertently contributed to anti-DST fervor.
There's nothing incorrect here, as the existence of a time switch to Daylight Savings Time necessitates a jump back to Standard Time. The individual is basically saying "I don't like [the switch to] Daylight Saving Time."
The rest of the article ignores that store hours etc. are changeable, and that those hours do not change infrequently. Some places have both summer and winter hours already.
Going daylight savings time all year round because we're too lazy to bother with changing store hours is absurd. Why in god's name would we decide that noon, when the sun is at its highest point, is not 12PM? To highlight the absurdity, imagine explaining this to kids 100 years from now: "well, 13:00 corresponds to solar noon because a century ago people in the United States decided it made more sense to shift all our time zones one over rather than change work hours. That's why our time zone has the word 'Daylight' in instead of just being called Pacific Time."
(A note: I am aware that solar noon does not exactly correspond to 12:00 PM due to the peculiarities of Earth's orbit, but being off by up to 16 minutes isn't that bad, particularly as the variation is centered around 12:00 PM. And yes, as you move closer to the edge of a time zone the offset between solar noon and 12:00 PM grows, but there is generally an attempt made to correspond with solar noon.)
- hello_1234 7y agoWhy are you so hung up on aligning solar noon with with 12:00 PM? People care more about when the sun rises and when the sun sets. Nobody, besides you, cares about when the sun is at the highest position in the sky.
- pvinis 7y agoThe times when the sun rises and sets change every season. The sun being in the highest position is the mid point. That's the significance of this. Having the sunrise always at 8 and the sunset at 20 in the summer and 16 in the winter makes things harder than having sunrise at 6 and sunset at 18 in the summer and sunrise at 8 and sunset at 16. We split the difference of sunlight per season.
- tzs 7y agoWhy should I care about when the Sun is at its highest point in the sky? The Sun being at its highest point in the sky has no biological significance that I know of. The arrival of morning light, on the other hand, is used to regulate our circadian rhythms. Thus, it makes a lot more sense to anchor our schedules for most activities to when the Sun rises, not when it peaks.
- NeutronStar 7y agoWhat's your plan here?
- jml7c5 7y agoThe choice of what 12:00 signifies has no bearing on where wake/sleep is anchored. If California decided to switch to Eastern time, people would just end up setting the average work day in the state from 11:00 - 19:00 (Eastern time), and people would wake up at 10:00 (Eastern time).
- ncmncm 7y agoIndeed, all of China runs on Beijing time. Out west, the sun comes up at 10 AM, in summer. In Winter, at 2 PM.
- teilo 7y ago12:00 PM is not solar noon for most people, regardless of DST. Even if time zones didn't follow political boundaries, it would still not align except for those who are in the center of a given time zone. So this part of your argument is meaningless.
- jml7c5 7y agoI noted this at the end of my comment, but I'll elaborate: Time zones do tend to be chosen such that inhabitants are within +/- 1 hour of solar time. If you look at the map at http://blog.poormansmath.net/images/SolarTimeVsStandardTimeV2.png http://blog.poormansmath.net/images/SolarTimeVsStandardTimeV... , a switch to permanent DST in North America would make the continent a very bright red.
- teilo 7y agoYeah, you added that endnote after I commented. Sheesh.
- jml7c5 7y agoMy mistake, I thought I'd put it in there originally! Usually I throw an "EDIT:" in, but it's possible I made the edit so quickly after posting that I didn't think anyone had started replying yet. No offence or subterfuge intended. :-)