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Please drop your inevitable BER jokes below so we can recylce them properly later.

by choeger 7y ago

PopeDotNinja 7y ago
I loved flying in and out your new airport!
wbillingsley 7y ago
Get in quick, there's only 49 days left of BER months this year!
notJim 7y ago
Placing it near that airport may be the biggest risk Musk has ever taken.
- freeflight 7y ago
  It's not open yet, there's a chance it will never open. Might even be an investment opportunity: Swoop in and buy the whole mess once the German government decides it has thrown enough money into their bottomless pit.
  - zaarn 7y ago
    The government will likely never do that, it's a prestige project so it will completed unless the entire government collapses.
    - freeflight 7y ago
      > unless the entire government collapses Well, at this point that seems more likely than that airport ever finishing.
  - john_minsk 7y ago
    And transform it into rocket launchpad: - fast parts delivery from China on BFR - competition for EU launchers etc. {joke}
  - raphman 7y ago
    That's not entirely correct. Sure, the passenger terminals are a big mess and it is not yet clear when they will open. However, the cargo terminal has been in operation since 2013 [1]. [1] https://www.berlin-airport.de/en/business-partners/airlines-and-handling/air-cargo/short-profiles/ber/index.php https://www.berlin-airport.de/en/business-partners/airlines-...
- pbreit 7y ago
  Why is that?
dmix 7y ago
For anyone confused like me they mean the airport https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berlin_Brandenburg_Airport?wprov=sfti1 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berlin_Brandenburg_Airport?w...
- baud147258 7y ago
  I first though of BER encoding and I was like 'What jokes and what's the relationship with Tesla'
NGC404 7y ago
I bet elon will not be able to land in BER for the celebation of the millionth car rolled out there.
- jayalpha 7y ago
  You will win this bet since zero cars are produced there.
robertkrahn01 7y ago
Nah, BER will actually be turned into the Tesla factory. This way they can at least stop spending millions just to keep the lights on.
- notJim 7y ago
  It's true, they both hemorrhage money, but at least with Tesla they also produce electric cars. (Tesla fans: relax.)
  - pbreit 7y ago
    Might be getting downvoted since Tesla generated $2b in cash flow past 12m months and has all time high cash on hand. And then the "relax" insult despite being dead wrong.
    - CathedralBorrow 7y ago
      I see Tesla fans emulate Elon's thin skin; how on earth is "relax" an insult?
    - deleted 7y ago
      [deleted]
jayalpha 7y ago
Best place to store the Boeing 737 MAX airplanes.
- alexis_fr 7y ago
  If you start this, it risks becoming Ground Zero of idiocracy.
- perlgeek 7y ago
  Can't; they're storing all the unsold VW cars there: https://www.dw.com/en/vw-finds-a-use-for-berlins-unfinished-airport/a-44420494 https://www.dw.com/en/vw-finds-a-use-for-berlins-unfinished-...
jcranmer 7y ago
Wait, so if I have this correct, the airport took ~6 years to construct and 9 years and counting to correct problems with its construction? Meaning that it would have been faster to tear the entire building down and rebuild it from scratch than it is taking to remedy the issues? How does that happen‽
- detaro 7y ago
  Massive failures in oversight and management. Airport building/management company that makes changes to the design pretty randomly, total failure in oversight mechanisms (basically, there was no review process in place which could have caught this while it was going on), as a result a building that doesn't match the original plans, doesn't conform to regulations and where in the end the actual state of what exists wasn't even known. Brought down by failing the fire safety certifications shortly before the opening, at which point the slow "figure out what happened and who to blame" process began, and then attempts to fix it. It's a glorious mess. Even if there had been a consensus on almost-rip-and-replace immediately, it's not clear that could have been done as quickly, given the amount of preparation needed. (As an example of the kind of changes, during the building process they decided to re-assign arrivals and departures to different floors of the building. Which in an airport has fairly fundamental consequences due to security zones etc...)
- freeflight 7y ago
  That's what happens when political corruption becomes a culture, while nobody wants to seriously talk about it.
  - _pmf_ 7y ago
    Politicians take turns taking lucrative positions within the project companies, "to help".
- usrusr 7y ago
  According to lore, it all started with the architect deciding against the tried and tested usage of little chimney-like structure on top of the terminal roofs for fire protection de-fuming, insisting instead on some novel, less visible solutions for aesthetic reasons. Those then caused all kinds of follow-up issues, eventually leading into the construction equivalent of the perpetual bugfix cycle, where every fix brings two new problems. Compounded by a colorful parade of high level "fix it guys" taking over the reins and failing in short progression, adding to the chaos.
odiroot 7y ago
Hey, there's always Stuttgart 21 and Elbphilharmonie!
xky 7y ago
This provides a decent and entertaining overview of why the Berlin airport has still not been completed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ll58ZrIupKA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ll58ZrIupKA
ptaipale 7y ago
Der Postillon: Musk: "We chose Berlin as the location because it has the only CO2-free airport in the world" https://www.der-postillon.com/2019/11/tesla-ber.html https://www.der-postillon.com/2019/11/tesla-ber.html

Please drop your inevitable BER jokes below so we can recylce them properly later.

PopeDotNinja 7y ago

I loved flying in and out your new airport!

wbillingsley 7y ago

Get in quick, there's only 49 days left of BER months this year!

notJim 7y ago

Placing it near that airport may be the biggest risk Musk has ever taken.

freeflight 7y ago
It's not open yet, there's a chance it will never open. Might even be an investment opportunity: Swoop in and buy the whole mess once the German government decides it has thrown enough money into their bottomless pit.
- zaarn 7y ago
  The government will likely never do that, it's a prestige project so it will completed unless the entire government collapses.
  - freeflight 7y ago
    > unless the entire government collapses Well, at this point that seems more likely than that airport ever finishing.
- john_minsk 7y ago
  And transform it into rocket launchpad: - fast parts delivery from China on BFR - competition for EU launchers etc. {joke}
- raphman 7y ago
  That's not entirely correct. Sure, the passenger terminals are a big mess and it is not yet clear when they will open. However, the cargo terminal has been in operation since 2013 [1]. [1] https://www.berlin-airport.de/en/business-partners/airlines-and-handling/air-cargo/short-profiles/ber/index.php https://www.berlin-airport.de/en/business-partners/airlines-...
pbreit 7y ago
Why is that?

dmix 7y ago

For anyone confused like me they mean the airport https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berlin_Brandenburg_Airport?wprov=sfti1 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berlin_Brandenburg_Airport?w...

baud147258 7y ago
I first though of BER encoding and I was like 'What jokes and what's the relationship with Tesla'

NGC404 7y ago

I bet elon will not be able to land in BER for the celebation of the millionth car rolled out there.

jayalpha 7y ago
You will win this bet since zero cars are produced there.

robertkrahn01 7y ago

Nah, BER will actually be turned into the Tesla factory. This way they can at least stop spending millions just to keep the lights on.

notJim 7y ago
It's true, they both hemorrhage money, but at least with Tesla they also produce electric cars. (Tesla fans: relax.)
- pbreit 7y ago
  Might be getting downvoted since Tesla generated $2b in cash flow past 12m months and has all time high cash on hand. And then the "relax" insult despite being dead wrong.
  - CathedralBorrow 7y ago
    I see Tesla fans emulate Elon's thin skin; how on earth is "relax" an insult?
  - deleted 7y ago
    [deleted]

jayalpha 7y ago

Best place to store the Boeing 737 MAX airplanes.

alexis_fr 7y ago
If you start this, it risks becoming Ground Zero of idiocracy.
perlgeek 7y ago
Can't; they're storing all the unsold VW cars there: https://www.dw.com/en/vw-finds-a-use-for-berlins-unfinished-airport/a-44420494 https://www.dw.com/en/vw-finds-a-use-for-berlins-unfinished-...

jcranmer 7y ago

Wait, so if I have this correct, the airport took ~6 years to construct and 9 years and counting to correct problems with its construction? Meaning that it would have been faster to tear the entire building down and rebuild it from scratch than it is taking to remedy the issues? How does that happen‽

detaro 7y ago
Massive failures in oversight and management. Airport building/management company that makes changes to the design pretty randomly, total failure in oversight mechanisms (basically, there was no review process in place which could have caught this while it was going on), as a result a building that doesn't match the original plans, doesn't conform to regulations and where in the end the actual state of what exists wasn't even known. Brought down by failing the fire safety certifications shortly before the opening, at which point the slow "figure out what happened and who to blame" process began, and then attempts to fix it. It's a glorious mess. Even if there had been a consensus on almost-rip-and-replace immediately, it's not clear that could have been done as quickly, given the amount of preparation needed. (As an example of the kind of changes, during the building process they decided to re-assign arrivals and departures to different floors of the building. Which in an airport has fairly fundamental consequences due to security zones etc...)
freeflight 7y ago
That's what happens when political corruption becomes a culture, while nobody wants to seriously talk about it.
- _pmf_ 7y ago
  Politicians take turns taking lucrative positions within the project companies, "to help".
usrusr 7y ago
According to lore, it all started with the architect deciding against the tried and tested usage of little chimney-like structure on top of the terminal roofs for fire protection de-fuming, insisting instead on some novel, less visible solutions for aesthetic reasons. Those then caused all kinds of follow-up issues, eventually leading into the construction equivalent of the perpetual bugfix cycle, where every fix brings two new problems. Compounded by a colorful parade of high level "fix it guys" taking over the reins and failing in short progression, adding to the chaos.

odiroot 7y ago

Hey, there's always Stuttgart 21 and Elbphilharmonie!

xky 7y ago

This provides a decent and entertaining overview of why the Berlin airport has still not been completed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ll58ZrIupKA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ll58ZrIupKA

ptaipale 7y ago

Der Postillon: Musk: "We chose Berlin as the location because it has the only CO2-free airport in the world" https://www.der-postillon.com/2019/11/tesla-ber.html https://www.der-postillon.com/2019/11/tesla-ber.html