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> It's almost 2020... Google knows about this Google also knows about vertical search [1] and actively destroys anyone who pops up with a good new algorithm an

> It's almost 2020... Google knows about this Google also knows about vertical search [1] and actively destroys anyone who pops up with a good new algorithm and hope for a startup. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vertical_search https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vertical_search. I am pretty sure there has been a HN frontpage article about a couple with a vertical search startup that was legally and practically destroyed by Google.

jessriedel 7y ago
First, does this have anything to do with the OP article? Second, care to link to anything to substantiate your claims?
- mikorym 7y ago
  > what does this have to do with OP OP made the point that Google does not want to address this problem and may even facilitate it (maybe passively). However, they have actively prevented progress on search engines that may be more difficult to SEO engineer/hack (because of their specificity) and particularly have prevented people with good vertical search algorithms from building a business (read: actively sabotaged their business). [1] In any case, Google known as well to quash any other small projects that they feel challenges them. [2] [3] [4] [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/20/magazine/the-case-against-google.html https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/20/magazine/the-case-against... and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16420004 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16420004 [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19553941 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19553941 web browser [3] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18566929 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18566929 person's idea taken after interview [4] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19124324 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19124324 business References [2]–[4] are not specifically important; there are easily a dozen such kind of complaints if you just search for "google" on HN.
  - jessriedel 7y ago
    Wouldn't leaving a persistent flaw in Google search results which could be avoided by using a vertical search engine be an example of Google assisting vertical-search start-ups?
    - mikorym 7y ago
      Maybe in theory, but if you look in particular at the reference labelled [1], it seems like they prefer to act as though it doesn't exist and if other people try to get vertical search going, then they simply block their startups.

jessriedel 7y ago

First, does this have anything to do with the OP article? Second, care to link to anything to substantiate your claims?

mikorym 7y ago
> what does this have to do with OP OP made the point that Google does not want to address this problem and may even facilitate it (maybe passively). However, they have actively prevented progress on search engines that may be more difficult to SEO engineer/hack (because of their specificity) and particularly have prevented people with good vertical search algorithms from building a business (read: actively sabotaged their business). [1] In any case, Google known as well to quash any other small projects that they feel challenges them. [2] [3] [4] [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/20/magazine/the-case-against-google.html https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/20/magazine/the-case-against... and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16420004 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16420004 [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19553941 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19553941 web browser [3] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18566929 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18566929 person's idea taken after interview [4] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19124324 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19124324 business References [2]–[4] are not specifically important; there are easily a dozen such kind of complaints if you just search for "google" on HN.
- jessriedel 7y ago
  Wouldn't leaving a persistent flaw in Google search results which could be avoided by using a vertical search engine be an example of Google assisting vertical-search start-ups?
  - mikorym 7y ago
    Maybe in theory, but if you look in particular at the reference labelled [1], it seems like they prefer to act as though it doesn't exist and if other people try to get vertical search going, then they simply block their startups.