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I think poor satire is to blame for being buried, not snopes. When the lines are blurred between misinformation and satire, and a relatively unknown satire webs

I think poor satire is to blame for being buried, not snopes. When the lines are blurred between misinformation and satire, and a relatively unknown satire website with an obvious agenda produces articles that walk that line, maybe they have it coming because simply put, they aren't very good.

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beerandt 7y ago
Not necessarily. Some of it is bad, certainly. But a lot just turns on being juxtaposed against a prerequisite belief that's not universal. If you don't share that belief, it won't be funny to you. That doesn't (necessarily) make it bad satire.
- TheHypnotist 7y ago
  Sure, and I'm trying to be objective but I believe my assertion is universal. If your content is poor, your return is poor. Perhaps the publication should look inward, not outward, and realize the lines between misinformation and satire are paper thin. Somehow, and perhaps its branding, The Onion manages to maintain humor and absurdity with very little room for interpreting it's content as anything but satire.
  - beerandt 7y ago
    But that's not a decision to be made by Snopes, based on a supposed fact-check. There are plenty of people who don't find the onion, at all. It's not a justification for blacklisting them as fake news.
    - dkonofalski 7y ago
      >blacklisting them as fake news The Onion is, literally, fake news regardless of whether one finds them funny or not. The question is whether people think it's true not whether they think it's funny and that's the only decision being made by a fact-check.
      - beerandt 7y ago
        So is Babylon Bee. Yet different standards were and are being applied.
        dkonofalski 7y ago
        Different standards were not applied. Where are you getting that from? Forum users posted the article from BB asking for it to be debunked. They haven't posted a request for articles from the Onion and that's likely because the Onion is well-known enough for people to know it's satire. You guys are reaching so hard here.
dev_dull 7y ago
> Actual headline: "Did CNN Purchase an Industrial-Sized Washing Machine to Spin News" What line does this walk? Things that are even physically possible and things that are not? I just can't believe Snopes dedicated cycles to debunking this. Thankfully it got some press and they changed the label to "satire". I can't tell exactly when because the snopes link has been excluded from the way back machine (for whatever reason).

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beerandt 7y ago

Not necessarily. Some of it is bad, certainly. But a lot just turns on being juxtaposed against a prerequisite belief that's not universal. If you don't share that belief, it won't be funny to you. That doesn't (necessarily) make it bad satire.

TheHypnotist 7y ago
Sure, and I'm trying to be objective but I believe my assertion is universal. If your content is poor, your return is poor. Perhaps the publication should look inward, not outward, and realize the lines between misinformation and satire are paper thin. Somehow, and perhaps its branding, The Onion manages to maintain humor and absurdity with very little room for interpreting it's content as anything but satire.
- beerandt 7y ago
  But that's not a decision to be made by Snopes, based on a supposed fact-check. There are plenty of people who don't find the onion, at all. It's not a justification for blacklisting them as fake news.
  - dkonofalski 7y ago
    >blacklisting them as fake news The Onion is, literally, fake news regardless of whether one finds them funny or not. The question is whether people think it's true not whether they think it's funny and that's the only decision being made by a fact-check.
    - beerandt 7y ago
      So is Babylon Bee. Yet different standards were and are being applied.
      - dkonofalski 7y ago
        Different standards were not applied. Where are you getting that from? Forum users posted the article from BB asking for it to be debunked. They haven't posted a request for articles from the Onion and that's likely because the Onion is well-known enough for people to know it's satire. You guys are reaching so hard here.

dev_dull 7y ago

> Actual headline: "Did CNN Purchase an Industrial-Sized Washing Machine to Spin News" What line does this walk? Things that are even physically possible and things that are not? I just can't believe Snopes dedicated cycles to debunking this. Thankfully it got some press and they changed the label to "satire". I can't tell exactly when because the snopes link has been excluded from the way back machine (for whatever reason).