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I don't understand why you Americans are getting an erection for all these "revolutions" in the Arab world. These are not revolutions, this is rioting by ignora

I don't understand why you Americans are getting an erection for all these "revolutions" in the Arab world. These are not revolutions, this is rioting by ignorant mobs. There are no institutions for democracy in these places, and democracy will not come out of it. The best case scenario is that the current socialist/paternalistic dictatorships will be replaced by enlightened, modernizing dictatorships like they had in Chile, Taiwan or South Korea. But let's face it, if this hasn't happened up till now, it ain't gonna happen.

JonnieCache 16y ago
>if this hasn't happened up till now, it ain't gonna happen. Flawless logic.
- dsfsadfsadf 16y ago
  Sorry to be raining on your parade here. The first wave of "democracy" the Arabs had is when the colonial rulers left and they ethnically cleansed their countries from Jews and established Soviet-style "people's democracies". Then we have Gaza, which also had a people's revolution and is now even more of an impoverished and belligerent dictatorship. Now we are getting a similar "revolution" in Lebanon. But don't let facts interfere with your worldview.
  - JonnieCache 16y ago
    There are no facts here yet. Egypt is still as we speak literally in the midst of chaos. You cannot yet know what will be built from the rubble and neither can anyone else, except those who will be doing the building.
    - dsfsadfsadf 16y ago
      The only political force that is sufficiently organized to take power in Egypt is the Muslim Brotherhood, so it's pretty obvious what is going to come out of this.
  - sofuture 16y ago
    Then we have Gaza, which also had a people's revolution and is now even more of an impoverished and belligerent dictatorship. You mean under Israel, right?
    - cema 16y ago
      No, they were economically better off "under Israel". Of course, life cannot be reduced to just economical issues.
DanI-S 16y ago
Yeah, right. Tell that to America in 1770.

JonnieCache 16y ago

>if this hasn't happened up till now, it ain't gonna happen. Flawless logic.

dsfsadfsadf 16y ago
Sorry to be raining on your parade here. The first wave of "democracy" the Arabs had is when the colonial rulers left and they ethnically cleansed their countries from Jews and established Soviet-style "people's democracies". Then we have Gaza, which also had a people's revolution and is now even more of an impoverished and belligerent dictatorship. Now we are getting a similar "revolution" in Lebanon. But don't let facts interfere with your worldview.
- JonnieCache 16y ago
  There are no facts here yet. Egypt is still as we speak literally in the midst of chaos. You cannot yet know what will be built from the rubble and neither can anyone else, except those who will be doing the building.
  - dsfsadfsadf 16y ago
    The only political force that is sufficiently organized to take power in Egypt is the Muslim Brotherhood, so it's pretty obvious what is going to come out of this.
- sofuture 16y ago
  Then we have Gaza, which also had a people's revolution and is now even more of an impoverished and belligerent dictatorship. You mean under Israel, right?
  - cema 16y ago
    No, they were economically better off "under Israel". Of course, life cannot be reduced to just economical issues.

DanI-S 16y ago

Yeah, right. Tell that to America in 1770.