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Lynx doesn't appear to actually be "dead". Last patch was in August. https://lynx.invisible-island.net/current/CHANGES https://lynx.invisible-island.net/curren

Lynx doesn't appear to actually be "dead". Last patch was in August. https://lynx.invisible-island.net/current/CHANGES https://lynx.invisible-island.net/current/CHANGES Browsh is fun, but at first I thought they were implying Lynx had been officially deprecated or something. (Lynx is usually my rough benchmark tool for whether or not my personal site is accessible enough)

nixpulvis 7y ago
"X is dead, long live Y", is a meme. I wouldn't read into it past, "I'm switching from X to Y".
- SmellyGeekBoy 7y ago
  The meme is actually "X is dead, long live X" - it's been misused here.
  - css 7y ago
    It is X and Y, the original phrase used the word 'king' in both places but it refers to a different person each time (i.e., the dead king and their successor). It would not make sense to say "Lynx is dead, long Live Lynx" as that implies Lynx's successor is itself. In the words of Robert Cecil: "The League is dead. Long live the United Nations."
    - deleted 7y ago
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    - m4r35n357 7y ago
      But the word play is important, this fact seems lost on the OP.
      - hombre_fatal 7y ago
        Is it, though? The title obviously communicates that a project called Browsh aims to be a sort of successor to Lynx.
        ycombobreaker 7y ago
        This is more like attempted regicide than succession!
  - oblio 7y ago
    > The original phrase was translated from the French: Le roi est mort, vive le roi!, which was first declared upon the accession to the French throne of Charles VII after the death of his father Charles VI in 1422. Charles VII would have probably not been amused by this historic statement being called a meme :-D
    - balfirevic 7y ago
      It is actually a (pretty silly) meme itself that being a meme is derogatory :)
      - __s 7y ago
        Back in my day we called these snowclones
        nixpulvis 7y ago
        The wiki page for "Snowclone" explicitly mentions X is the new Y. I wonder how many snowclones of meme there are? :P https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowclone https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowclone
      - nixpulvis 7y ago
        IDK, is a meme really a derogatory name for an idiom? I tend to think of memes as simply more attached to the current era. Sure our current era is devolving into madness, but I like to believe in a world with beautiful memes and healthier societies.
    - throwanem 7y ago
      On the other hand, Charles VII is dead, and thus in no position to object to the accurate description of this historic statement as a meme. Even if he weren't, I feel like this would be pretty far down on the list, considering that the intervening centuries have also seen the fall of the French monarchy...
    - cestith 7y ago
      I doubt Charles VII had much opportunity to read Dawkins.
  - nixpulvis 7y ago
    Y=X is a specific instance of the expression.
- qubex 7y ago
  Back in my time those kinds of ‘memes’ were known as ‘idioms’ and one would be marked down for misusing a term or failing to identify one, but... whatever.
threwawasy1228 7y ago
Yeah I hate articles titled like this, I immediately went to check if Thomas Dickey had passed away or something. If something so simple and easy to use, isn't broken I don't know why people continuously think they need to redo the wheel.
- amyjess 7y ago
  Hey mods, may I suggest shortening the title to "Browsh for text-based internet browsing (2018)"?
  - papito 7y ago
    "She just wanted a text-based web browser, but she never expected THIS".
    - beefield 7y ago
      If I one day have lots of spare time, I think I want to build a neural network and a browser extension that will replace all clickbaits with something. Not sure if it was better to translate them into proper language or just make them even more laughably stupid. Maybe a setting to choose... Wonder if there is a labeled dataset already somewhere?
      - nielsbot 7y ago
        Next best thing: https://twitter.com/SavedYouAClick https://twitter.com/SavedYouAClick
      - hawski 7y ago
        I also thought about this, but I would replace them with empty or collapsed space.
    - blisterpeanuts 7y ago
      I wonder if we can get Congress to ban the word "this" from news headlines?
john-radio 7y ago
> Lynx is usually my rough benchmark tool for whether or not my personal site is accessible enough That's a great idea, but the result was a little depressing when I ran the test on my personal site, because it arguably looks better than it does in Firefox...
- 52-6F-62 7y ago
  That's about the same on my end as well—keep it no frills for the most part.
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dang 7y ago
Ok, we've removed the exaggerated report of Lynx's death from the title above.

nixpulvis 7y ago

"X is dead, long live Y", is a meme. I wouldn't read into it past, "I'm switching from X to Y".

SmellyGeekBoy 7y ago
The meme is actually "X is dead, long live X" - it's been misused here.
- css 7y ago
  It is X and Y, the original phrase used the word 'king' in both places but it refers to a different person each time (i.e., the dead king and their successor). It would not make sense to say "Lynx is dead, long Live Lynx" as that implies Lynx's successor is itself. In the words of Robert Cecil: "The League is dead. Long live the United Nations."
  - deleted 7y ago
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  - m4r35n357 7y ago
    But the word play is important, this fact seems lost on the OP.
    - hombre_fatal 7y ago
      Is it, though? The title obviously communicates that a project called Browsh aims to be a sort of successor to Lynx.
      - ycombobreaker 7y ago
        This is more like attempted regicide than succession!
- oblio 7y ago
  > The original phrase was translated from the French: Le roi est mort, vive le roi!, which was first declared upon the accession to the French throne of Charles VII after the death of his father Charles VI in 1422. Charles VII would have probably not been amused by this historic statement being called a meme :-D
  - balfirevic 7y ago
    It is actually a (pretty silly) meme itself that being a meme is derogatory :)
    - __s 7y ago
      Back in my day we called these snowclones
      - nixpulvis 7y ago
        The wiki page for "Snowclone" explicitly mentions X is the new Y. I wonder how many snowclones of meme there are? :P https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowclone https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowclone
    - nixpulvis 7y ago
      IDK, is a meme really a derogatory name for an idiom? I tend to think of memes as simply more attached to the current era. Sure our current era is devolving into madness, but I like to believe in a world with beautiful memes and healthier societies.
  - throwanem 7y ago
    On the other hand, Charles VII is dead, and thus in no position to object to the accurate description of this historic statement as a meme. Even if he weren't, I feel like this would be pretty far down on the list, considering that the intervening centuries have also seen the fall of the French monarchy...
  - cestith 7y ago
    I doubt Charles VII had much opportunity to read Dawkins.
- nixpulvis 7y ago
  Y=X is a specific instance of the expression.
qubex 7y ago
Back in my time those kinds of ‘memes’ were known as ‘idioms’ and one would be marked down for misusing a term or failing to identify one, but... whatever.

threwawasy1228 7y ago

Yeah I hate articles titled like this, I immediately went to check if Thomas Dickey had passed away or something. If something so simple and easy to use, isn't broken I don't know why people continuously think they need to redo the wheel.

amyjess 7y ago
Hey mods, may I suggest shortening the title to "Browsh for text-based internet browsing (2018)"?
- papito 7y ago
  "She just wanted a text-based web browser, but she never expected THIS".
  - beefield 7y ago
    If I one day have lots of spare time, I think I want to build a neural network and a browser extension that will replace all clickbaits with something. Not sure if it was better to translate them into proper language or just make them even more laughably stupid. Maybe a setting to choose... Wonder if there is a labeled dataset already somewhere?
    - nielsbot 7y ago
      Next best thing: https://twitter.com/SavedYouAClick https://twitter.com/SavedYouAClick
    - hawski 7y ago
      I also thought about this, but I would replace them with empty or collapsed space.
  - blisterpeanuts 7y ago
    I wonder if we can get Congress to ban the word "this" from news headlines?

john-radio 7y ago

> Lynx is usually my rough benchmark tool for whether or not my personal site is accessible enough That's a great idea, but the result was a little depressing when I ran the test on my personal site, because it arguably looks better than it does in Firefox...

52-6F-62 7y ago
That's about the same on my end as well—keep it no frills for the most part.

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dang 7y ago

Ok, we've removed the exaggerated report of Lynx's death from the title above.