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It seems the photographer is as responsible as the lawyer in this case. I'd expect he needs to give his approvement to reject the initial offer. Also "Mango sou

It seems the photographer is as responsible as the lawyer in this case. I'd expect he needs to give his approvement to reject the initial offer. Also "Mango sought bankruptcy in 2004, and records from his bankruptcy filing show that his liabilities greatly exceeded his listed assets", so sounds like he's trying to make some easy extra cash, that turns out not be so easy.

owenmarshall 7y ago
This lawyer is about to go in to court today to explain why he lied to a federal judge no less than four times, and was also accused by another of his clients of forging their signature and submitting it to the court. Who knows what he’s told or has not told this client.
- MertsA 7y ago
  I think you're underselling it a bit. He's going before a federal judge, not even for the lie itself but for failure to provide documentation to prove that lie. He's facing increasingly severe monetary sanctions and possibly imprisonment tomorrow even if he actually could provide a death certificate that substantiated his earlier claims. We haven't seen the full extent of the blowback from that lie yet even if he comes clean today there's still more to come. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKfSe7QSMOU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKfSe7QSMOU Failure to appear will immediately subject him to arrest by the US Marshals Service regardless of any other delay shenanigans by Liebowitz.
  - owenmarshall 7y ago
    Oh yeah. I’m not a lawyer myself but when I’ve read about other shady lawyers the message is always seemingly the same: justice can be slow but when it comes - especially at the hands of a federal judge who you lied to, multiple times - you should be happy if the only outcome is that you never get to practice law again. I only want to highlight the client may have very little to do with the case and what’s happened with it so far, as everything this lawyer has done is out of the bounds of the legal system. I don’t think the average person is equipped to deal with the impact of a lawyer who is themselves a criminal.
squiggleblaz 7y ago
Well, you hire a lawyer because you're not sure what to do. If your lawyer says, "In this case, I'd go forwards - there's not a lot that can go wrong, I've done it dozens of times before" then you probably go forwards. I wouldn't ascribe too much to Mango.
- ska 7y ago
  If a decent lawyer tells you to go forward, they are also going to tell you why. If this guys lawyer effectively said I think I can get you 25k instead of 2k they offered then it's on Mango if that decision is based on greed.

owenmarshall 7y ago

This lawyer is about to go in to court today to explain why he lied to a federal judge no less than four times, and was also accused by another of his clients of forging their signature and submitting it to the court. Who knows what he’s told or has not told this client.

MertsA 7y ago
I think you're underselling it a bit. He's going before a federal judge, not even for the lie itself but for failure to provide documentation to prove that lie. He's facing increasingly severe monetary sanctions and possibly imprisonment tomorrow even if he actually could provide a death certificate that substantiated his earlier claims. We haven't seen the full extent of the blowback from that lie yet even if he comes clean today there's still more to come. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKfSe7QSMOU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKfSe7QSMOU Failure to appear will immediately subject him to arrest by the US Marshals Service regardless of any other delay shenanigans by Liebowitz.
- owenmarshall 7y ago
  Oh yeah. I’m not a lawyer myself but when I’ve read about other shady lawyers the message is always seemingly the same: justice can be slow but when it comes - especially at the hands of a federal judge who you lied to, multiple times - you should be happy if the only outcome is that you never get to practice law again. I only want to highlight the client may have very little to do with the case and what’s happened with it so far, as everything this lawyer has done is out of the bounds of the legal system. I don’t think the average person is equipped to deal with the impact of a lawyer who is themselves a criminal.

squiggleblaz 7y ago

Well, you hire a lawyer because you're not sure what to do. If your lawyer says, "In this case, I'd go forwards - there's not a lot that can go wrong, I've done it dozens of times before" then you probably go forwards. I wouldn't ascribe too much to Mango.

ska 7y ago
If a decent lawyer tells you to go forward, they are also going to tell you why. If this guys lawyer effectively said I think I can get you 25k instead of 2k they offered then it's on Mango if that decision is based on greed.