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> OTOH the history shows that technically poor, and even terrible, things can get wide enough adoption and stick with us for a long time; X is a good example, S

> OTOH the history shows that technically poor, and even terrible, things can get wide enough adoption and stick with us for a long time; X is a good example, SysV init is another. Funnily Unix and C are also examples of "worse is better". https://www.jwz.org/doc/worse-is-better.html https://www.jwz.org/doc/worse-is-better.html

DoctorNick 7y ago
More testicles mean more iron.
nitrogen 7y ago
Clicking that link from HN will (usually?) give you something NSFW; jwz doesn't like HN, so copy/paste the link if you want to see the real link.
- SturgeonsLaw 7y ago
  Didn't do it for me after multiple attempts :(
  - mike_d 7y ago
    You end up with a redirect to https://web.archive.org/web/20191014203443/https://www.jwz.org/images/2016/hn.png https://web.archive.org/web/20191014203443/https://www.jwz.o... (Mildly NSFW)
  - DyslexicAtheist 7y ago
    perhaps your browser strips the http referer header (with custom settings or done by some privacy extension)? https://wiki.mozilla.org/Security/Referrer https://wiki.mozilla.org/Security/Referrer
    - uwydr 7y ago
      https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/smart-referer/?src=search https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/smart-referer...
- pferde 7y ago
  Wait, you do not block HTTP referers by default? In this day and age where vast majority of websites are out to scoop any and all available information about you?
  - tome 7y ago
    The fact that you don't send a Referer may ironically make it more easy to track you.
    - minitech 7y ago
      It’s information for fingerprinting, sure, but not sharing the page you’re visiting from for every link click is much more important for privacy IMO.
    - pferde 7y ago
      Anything you do online can be used to track you. The point is that by doing this, you plug an additional information leak about yourself.
    - boomlinde 7y ago
      The best option I think is to spoof Referer to a random choice of known good values. This, of course, after disabling other, more reliable tracking vectors like JS and cookies that would just identify you as a Referer spoofer.
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DoctorNick 7y ago

More testicles mean more iron.

nitrogen 7y ago

Clicking that link from HN will (usually?) give you something NSFW; jwz doesn't like HN, so copy/paste the link if you want to see the real link.

SturgeonsLaw 7y ago
Didn't do it for me after multiple attempts :(
- mike_d 7y ago
  You end up with a redirect to https://web.archive.org/web/20191014203443/https://www.jwz.org/images/2016/hn.png https://web.archive.org/web/20191014203443/https://www.jwz.o... (Mildly NSFW)
- DyslexicAtheist 7y ago
  perhaps your browser strips the http referer header (with custom settings or done by some privacy extension)? https://wiki.mozilla.org/Security/Referrer https://wiki.mozilla.org/Security/Referrer
  - uwydr 7y ago
    https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/smart-referer/?src=search https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/smart-referer...
pferde 7y ago
Wait, you do not block HTTP referers by default? In this day and age where vast majority of websites are out to scoop any and all available information about you?
- tome 7y ago
  The fact that you don't send a Referer may ironically make it more easy to track you.
  - minitech 7y ago
    It’s information for fingerprinting, sure, but not sharing the page you’re visiting from for every link click is much more important for privacy IMO.
  - pferde 7y ago
    Anything you do online can be used to track you. The point is that by doing this, you plug an additional information leak about yourself.
  - boomlinde 7y ago
    The best option I think is to spoof Referer to a random choice of known good values. This, of course, after disabling other, more reliable tracking vectors like JS and cookies that would just identify you as a Referer spoofer.

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