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The Fake Backlash to Fake Meat

28 points by ericdanielski 7y ago

xvx 7y ago
Chipotle giving health advice is a nice wrap to 2019. The company with continuous food poisoning outbreaks. The company where even the bowls are laden with cancer-causing chemicals. Pass.
dr_dshiv 7y ago
Great article that nails the issue about classism in food.
gatlinnewhouse 7y ago
Isn't the more prescient issue the use of lab grade plasma (or whatever is used in petri dishes and stuff) which comes from sheep blood? Wouldn't that be the location of any actual vegan/vegetarian backlash to fake meat? Or does fake meat not use this material in its production? Maybe it is only used in researching fake meat?
- dsabanin 7y ago
  Do you have any sources for this claim? Why would they use petri dishes to grow GMO yeast?
- teh_klev 7y ago
  I would guess they're only used to research fake meat. As in, to understand the chemicals and nutrients that make up actual meat and give meats their properties. An example I suppose would be to understand the chemicals and reactions involved when cooking meats e.g. how meat browns when cooked[0] and then synthesise these chemicals from plant matter[1]. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maillard_reaction https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maillard_reaction [1]: https://faq.impossiblefoods.com/hc/en-us/articles/360018937494-What-are-the-ingredients- https://faq.impossiblefoods.com/hc/en-us/articles/3600189374...
Proven 7y ago
registration wall at Medium - worthless post
spicymaki 7y ago
Chipotle already has a processed vegan product: Sofritas. By definition converting soy into tofu by coagulating and separating curds (protein extraction) and forming blocks means it is a processed food. Is tofu a bad thing? If you use a little imagination, beef is a live processed food. You input vegetables and it gets converted into protein and fat. It is then extracted (slaughter and butchering) and can be further processed by grounding, dehydrating, etc.
ptah 7y ago
Does anti-GMO laws in EU countries prohibit Impossible Burger but not Beyond Meat
jiofih 7y ago
This article is so full of itself. Classism? Come on. Processed means many of the ingredients have been chemically extracted, the ‘heme’ made by GMO yeast, none of the ingredients make it to the other side even remotely looking like they started. This is very different from “stuffing plants through a machine”, which would be absolutely fine. I’ll take a mediocre-tasting lentil or black bean burger over this plant-based goo any day of the week.
- AdamJacobMuller 7y ago
  > I’ll take a mediocre-tasting lentil or black bean burger over this plant-based goo any day of the week. Agreed, but, there are plenty of better-tasting vegetarian options (better than fake meat anyway).

28 points by ericdanielski 7y ago

xvx 7y ago

Chipotle giving health advice is a nice wrap to 2019. The company with continuous food poisoning outbreaks. The company where even the bowls are laden with cancer-causing chemicals. Pass.

dr_dshiv 7y ago

Great article that nails the issue about classism in food.

gatlinnewhouse 7y ago

Isn't the more prescient issue the use of lab grade plasma (or whatever is used in petri dishes and stuff) which comes from sheep blood? Wouldn't that be the location of any actual vegan/vegetarian backlash to fake meat? Or does fake meat not use this material in its production? Maybe it is only used in researching fake meat?

dsabanin 7y ago
Do you have any sources for this claim? Why would they use petri dishes to grow GMO yeast?
teh_klev 7y ago
I would guess they're only used to research fake meat. As in, to understand the chemicals and nutrients that make up actual meat and give meats their properties. An example I suppose would be to understand the chemicals and reactions involved when cooking meats e.g. how meat browns when cooked[0] and then synthesise these chemicals from plant matter[1]. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maillard_reaction https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maillard_reaction [1]: https://faq.impossiblefoods.com/hc/en-us/articles/360018937494-What-are-the-ingredients- https://faq.impossiblefoods.com/hc/en-us/articles/3600189374...

Proven 7y ago

registration wall at Medium - worthless post

spicymaki 7y ago

Chipotle already has a processed vegan product: Sofritas. By definition converting soy into tofu by coagulating and separating curds (protein extraction) and forming blocks means it is a processed food. Is tofu a bad thing? If you use a little imagination, beef is a live processed food. You input vegetables and it gets converted into protein and fat. It is then extracted (slaughter and butchering) and can be further processed by grounding, dehydrating, etc.

ptah 7y ago

Does anti-GMO laws in EU countries prohibit Impossible Burger but not Beyond Meat

jiofih 7y ago

This article is so full of itself. Classism? Come on. Processed means many of the ingredients have been chemically extracted, the ‘heme’ made by GMO yeast, none of the ingredients make it to the other side even remotely looking like they started. This is very different from “stuffing plants through a machine”, which would be absolutely fine. I’ll take a mediocre-tasting lentil or black bean burger over this plant-based goo any day of the week.

AdamJacobMuller 7y ago
> I’ll take a mediocre-tasting lentil or black bean burger over this plant-based goo any day of the week. Agreed, but, there are plenty of better-tasting vegetarian options (better than fake meat anyway).