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If I'm staring at the screen waiting for a page to load, a loading indicator can help me figure out if I should keep waiting longer or give up. That's very use

by jefftk 7y ago

If I'm staring at the screen waiting for a page to load, a loading indicator can help me figure out if I should keep waiting longer or give up. That's very useful! If this gets site owners to work more on loading speed so they can get a badge that's great. I used to work on mod_pagespeed and one of the big problems was that publishers just didn't care that much about loading speed. (Disclosure: I work for Google)

jfoster 7y ago
Based on what this feature is and the scenario you described, I think it may disincent site owners from speeding up slow sites. At the moment, a user doesn't know if a site will ever load. If Chrome reassures that "this site usually loads slowly" they may stick around since they are then reassured that it probably will eventually load, it's just taking a while.
- jefftk 7y ago
  Maybe users will respond that way, but that's still a good outcome. Giving users a better idea about what to expect so they can make more informed decisions? Great!
  - close04 7y ago
    > Giving users a better idea about what to expect Can I expect Google to do the same about data that may be sent by Chrome to Google without users realizing, just so users can make informed decisions?
    - jefftk 7y ago
      Is https://myactivity.google.com/myactivity https://myactivity.google.com/myactivity what you're looking for?
      - close04 7y ago
        No. I mean a badge that pops up for Google products warning you that they may send your personal data to Google even without any user interaction, when the user does not reasonably expect this. What happened to "Giving users a better idea about what to expect so they can make more informed decisions"? I guess profit has a stronger scent and we can all assume that Google is tricking users with those "slow loading page" warnings just to get more for themselves. I feel that you are being willfully ignorant about this. > Both Android and Chrome send data to Google even in the absence of any user interaction. Our experiments show that a dormant, stationary Android phone (with Chrome active in the background) communicated location information to Google 340 times during a 24-hour period, or at an average of 14 data communications per hour. In fact, location information constituted 35% of all the data samples sent to Google.[0] [0] https://digitalcontentnext.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/DCN-Google-Data-Collection-Paper.pdf https://digitalcontentnext.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/DC...

by jefftk 7y ago

jfoster 7y ago

Based on what this feature is and the scenario you described, I think it may disincent site owners from speeding up slow sites. At the moment, a user doesn't know if a site will ever load. If Chrome reassures that "this site usually loads slowly" they may stick around since they are then reassured that it probably will eventually load, it's just taking a while.

jefftk 7y ago
Maybe users will respond that way, but that's still a good outcome. Giving users a better idea about what to expect so they can make more informed decisions? Great!
- close04 7y ago
  > Giving users a better idea about what to expect Can I expect Google to do the same about data that may be sent by Chrome to Google without users realizing, just so users can make informed decisions?
  - jefftk 7y ago
    Is https://myactivity.google.com/myactivity https://myactivity.google.com/myactivity what you're looking for?
    - close04 7y ago
      No. I mean a badge that pops up for Google products warning you that they may send your personal data to Google even without any user interaction, when the user does not reasonably expect this. What happened to "Giving users a better idea about what to expect so they can make more informed decisions"? I guess profit has a stronger scent and we can all assume that Google is tricking users with those "slow loading page" warnings just to get more for themselves. I feel that you are being willfully ignorant about this. > Both Android and Chrome send data to Google even in the absence of any user interaction. Our experiments show that a dormant, stationary Android phone (with Chrome active in the background) communicated location information to Google 340 times during a 24-hour period, or at an average of 14 data communications per hour. In fact, location information constituted 35% of all the data samples sent to Google.[0] [0] https://digitalcontentnext.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/DCN-Google-Data-Collection-Paper.pdf https://digitalcontentnext.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/DC...