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> there's a time and place for the brilliant IC, and that's usually the very very early stages of a business I definitely agree with this with a slight alterat

> there's a time and place for the brilliant IC, and that's usually the very very early stages of a business I definitely agree with this with a slight alteration....early stages of a project

cgrealy 7y ago
Ehhh... everyone is brilliant in the early stages of a project. Coming up with a fantastic green fields design isn't hard and represents a fraction of a percentage of the overall work. Give me a solid engineer who can deal with all the legacy cruft and still produce a maintainable piece of software.
taneq 7y ago
I'd offer a third option: Early stages of a product. The hyper-productive antisocial back room whiz kid is perfect for an R&D role. They can launch off solo and come back a few weeks later with a working prototype to prove the viability of a new product line. Then, before they get bored and stop being productive, you send them off on another deep space mission to invent something else. All the while, you have a team of less flashy but more dependable and cooperative engineers taking the prototypes and building sustainable systems and marketable products out of them.
- throwaway35784 7y ago
  I need that role. In a week I turn out what takes a team several months and many times they've already spent that many trying to show any visible progress. I've done the impossible since I was in college. Still am. I'm resented by peers. Feared by less competent managers. I can't be controlled. I have a deep sense of integrity. I refuse to compromise my morals. I will not be forced to implement anything I believe could be used for unethical purposes. I won't bury the truth. I won't keep my mouth shut if blame is cast inappropriately. I will not see people thrown under the bus. I work too hard. I'm an over achiever. Others start to believe they are looking bad by comparison. I'm held back by them. I work all night. I get 'er done. I care. I listen. I empathize. I'm hated. I'm not a team player because I am able to do all the jobs but focus what I do best. I'll help you do your job better but I won't do it for you. I won't tolerate lies. I have high standards for myself and my team. I won't fall in line. People assume I'm arrogant but I always under promise and over deliver. I'm lost. There is no place for me. I'm alone.
  - taneq 7y ago
    Sounds like you need to start your own company where you can call the shots and surround yourself with like-minded people.
  - goto11 7y ago
    Look for consulting work or start you own business. If you are difficult and not a team player, you are going to have a hard time in teams regardless of your ninja rockstar abilities. But there are plenty of opportunities for a sole developers where you might thrive.
  - akie 7y ago
    Honestly, it sounds you're both brilliant and a bit lacking in people skills at the same time. Most people are decent and try to do the right thing, so if they do something questionable it's usually because there's another (not-questionable/good) thing that they're trying to achieve. Try to objectively understand people's reasons for doing things before you reach a conclusion about their behavior, it will go a long way in making you feel less alone.
  - fragmede 7y ago
    It must hurt to feel so lost and alone. I'm sure what you wrote is an honest description of how you feel, but it's highly biased. Impossible for it not to be, mind you. Without talking to your peers, or watching you interact with them, it's impossible to say if it's actually your IQ that they resent you for, or if there's something else going on. For instance, if EQ is low (compensation for high IQ), then you may not even be able to see hurtful actions that you've taken towards them for which they resent you, rather than jealousy of your brilliance. (btw might look into Aspergers/ASD)
  - say_it_as_it_is 7y ago
    Go see a therapist.
  - PedroBatista 7y ago
    You need to grow up. It’s hurting and will hurt like hell, but it’s the only way. You are not your work, you got that illusion and higher sense of self because you knew that’s the only thing you have to offer, now you’re starting to realize it’s a dead end. Time to let go.

> there's a time and place for the brilliant IC, and that's usually the very very early stages of a business I definitely agree with this with a slight alteration....early stages of a project

cgrealy 7y ago

Ehhh... everyone is brilliant in the early stages of a project. Coming up with a fantastic green fields design isn't hard and represents a fraction of a percentage of the overall work. Give me a solid engineer who can deal with all the legacy cruft and still produce a maintainable piece of software.

taneq 7y ago

I'd offer a third option: Early stages of a product. The hyper-productive antisocial back room whiz kid is perfect for an R&D role. They can launch off solo and come back a few weeks later with a working prototype to prove the viability of a new product line. Then, before they get bored and stop being productive, you send them off on another deep space mission to invent something else. All the while, you have a team of less flashy but more dependable and cooperative engineers taking the prototypes and building sustainable systems and marketable products out of them.

throwaway35784 7y ago
I need that role. In a week I turn out what takes a team several months and many times they've already spent that many trying to show any visible progress. I've done the impossible since I was in college. Still am. I'm resented by peers. Feared by less competent managers. I can't be controlled. I have a deep sense of integrity. I refuse to compromise my morals. I will not be forced to implement anything I believe could be used for unethical purposes. I won't bury the truth. I won't keep my mouth shut if blame is cast inappropriately. I will not see people thrown under the bus. I work too hard. I'm an over achiever. Others start to believe they are looking bad by comparison. I'm held back by them. I work all night. I get 'er done. I care. I listen. I empathize. I'm hated. I'm not a team player because I am able to do all the jobs but focus what I do best. I'll help you do your job better but I won't do it for you. I won't tolerate lies. I have high standards for myself and my team. I won't fall in line. People assume I'm arrogant but I always under promise and over deliver. I'm lost. There is no place for me. I'm alone.
- taneq 7y ago
  Sounds like you need to start your own company where you can call the shots and surround yourself with like-minded people.
- goto11 7y ago
  Look for consulting work or start you own business. If you are difficult and not a team player, you are going to have a hard time in teams regardless of your ninja rockstar abilities. But there are plenty of opportunities for a sole developers where you might thrive.
- akie 7y ago
  Honestly, it sounds you're both brilliant and a bit lacking in people skills at the same time. Most people are decent and try to do the right thing, so if they do something questionable it's usually because there's another (not-questionable/good) thing that they're trying to achieve. Try to objectively understand people's reasons for doing things before you reach a conclusion about their behavior, it will go a long way in making you feel less alone.
- fragmede 7y ago
  It must hurt to feel so lost and alone. I'm sure what you wrote is an honest description of how you feel, but it's highly biased. Impossible for it not to be, mind you. Without talking to your peers, or watching you interact with them, it's impossible to say if it's actually your IQ that they resent you for, or if there's something else going on. For instance, if EQ is low (compensation for high IQ), then you may not even be able to see hurtful actions that you've taken towards them for which they resent you, rather than jealousy of your brilliance. (btw might look into Aspergers/ASD)
- say_it_as_it_is 7y ago
  Go see a therapist.
- PedroBatista 7y ago
  You need to grow up. It’s hurting and will hurt like hell, but it’s the only way. You are not your work, you got that illusion and higher sense of self because you knew that’s the only thing you have to offer, now you’re starting to realize it’s a dead end. Time to let go.