Chiefly #2 on both counts. I didn't see it as strategically useful, nor as in fact advancing any kind of humanitarian or idealistic vision (brand, rather, if we

Chiefly #2 on both counts. I didn't see it as strategically useful, nor as in fact advancing any kind of humanitarian or idealistic vision (brand, rather, if we're being frank) for the US. I end up agreeing with the anti-war-for-morality's-sake folks more often than not, though, mostly because US foreign policy on that front is kind-of shit, generally speaking, and because my inclination is to default to their position absent a compelling reason to oppose it.