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Just as content creators are not obliged to host on YouTube.

by factorialboy 7y ago

AnIdiotOnTheNet 7y ago
Sure, but just try to find an audience without it.
- superkuh 7y ago
  As long as you're not driven by profit motive you can wait for the audience to find you.
  - sct202 7y ago
    Even if you aren't driven by profit, it's pretty sad to spend time to create content and only have a handful of people see it.
    - spamizbad 7y ago
      Sure, but that's the story for most artists. Doesn't mean everyone's work should be showcased at The Louvre.
  - vkou 7y ago
    That's the thing that most people don't understand, though. Most people complaining about YouTube's hosting policies don't actually have a problem with YouTube's hosting policies. You can upload almost anything you want - as long as it's not illegal, infringes on copyright, or violates the most serious cultural taboos (nudity, etc). YouTube's hosting policies are fairly lax, and allows a lot of borderline content. However, a lot of content exists on the gray edges of those borderlines. And YouTube allows you to upload things in that gray area. What it won't do, is drive audiences towards them, and it won't pay you for uploading it. When people complain about YouTube being unfair to them, what they are actually complaining about, is that YouTube isn't paying them money, or driving audiences to them. If those people were willing to wait for audiences to find them, or weren't motivated by profit, they wouldn't be complaining.
  - zanny 7y ago
    Discoverability on the Internet is borderline nonexistent. There is no place people regularly go that would present them with foreign websites hosting content to their interest - there is too much money to be made in isolating and siloing users into the major consumptive hubs that already dominate. I'd be willing to bet if you self-hosted a video blog your only viewers would be bots crawling it, anyone you directly shared a link with, and anyone they shared the link with. And those "share chains" peter out really fast if the content is not broadly applicable / viral worthy. It needs to get "likes" on social media to spread. That severely limits the kinds of material you can even try to make if you want anyone to actually see it, even if there might be millions of people in the world interested in the subject.
- code_duck 7y ago
  It depends on what audience you're aiming for. People seem to do well on Instagram or TikTok, for short and extra short videos I suppose. Not sure how well IGTV is doing but it seems successful to me so far, based on my impressions using IG. It could be a viable competitor for YouTube.

Just as content creators are not obliged to host on YouTube.

AnIdiotOnTheNet 7y ago

Sure, but just try to find an audience without it.

superkuh 7y ago
As long as you're not driven by profit motive you can wait for the audience to find you.
- sct202 7y ago
  Even if you aren't driven by profit, it's pretty sad to spend time to create content and only have a handful of people see it.
  - spamizbad 7y ago
    Sure, but that's the story for most artists. Doesn't mean everyone's work should be showcased at The Louvre.
- vkou 7y ago
  That's the thing that most people don't understand, though. Most people complaining about YouTube's hosting policies don't actually have a problem with YouTube's hosting policies. You can upload almost anything you want - as long as it's not illegal, infringes on copyright, or violates the most serious cultural taboos (nudity, etc). YouTube's hosting policies are fairly lax, and allows a lot of borderline content. However, a lot of content exists on the gray edges of those borderlines. And YouTube allows you to upload things in that gray area. What it won't do, is drive audiences towards them, and it won't pay you for uploading it. When people complain about YouTube being unfair to them, what they are actually complaining about, is that YouTube isn't paying them money, or driving audiences to them. If those people were willing to wait for audiences to find them, or weren't motivated by profit, they wouldn't be complaining.
- zanny 7y ago
  Discoverability on the Internet is borderline nonexistent. There is no place people regularly go that would present them with foreign websites hosting content to their interest - there is too much money to be made in isolating and siloing users into the major consumptive hubs that already dominate. I'd be willing to bet if you self-hosted a video blog your only viewers would be bots crawling it, anyone you directly shared a link with, and anyone they shared the link with. And those "share chains" peter out really fast if the content is not broadly applicable / viral worthy. It needs to get "likes" on social media to spread. That severely limits the kinds of material you can even try to make if you want anyone to actually see it, even if there might be millions of people in the world interested in the subject.
code_duck 7y ago
It depends on what audience you're aiming for. People seem to do well on Instagram or TikTok, for short and extra short videos I suppose. Not sure how well IGTV is doing but it seems successful to me so far, based on my impressions using IG. It could be a viable competitor for YouTube.