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Wow, the amount of negativity here is awful. I looks like most commenters have not even read the article... First of all, the HN title is not the title of the

by LeonM 7y ago

Wow, the amount of negativity here is awful. I looks like most commenters have not even read the article... First of all, the HN title is not the title of the article. HN mods, please change it to reflect the actual title of the article. Second, to me this does not seem as some attempt by Google to actively block Adblocker extensions. They are proposing a change to the API (Manifest) to no longer allow manipulation of content, which I think is a good thing from a security standpoint. They also propose reducing the number of content stripping rules to 30k. Now, I'm not familiar with add-on development, but this sounds like a constraint that was implemented for performance reasons. This constraint will break add-blockers in their current form, but there is no reason for me to believe that this will make content filtering impossible. It is also clearly stated that the V3 manifest is in early testing phase. Nothing here is set in stone.

daRealDodo 7y ago
Thank you for giving an insight from the other side.
saagarjha 7y ago
Mods, can we have this title changed to match the article? It’s not accurate, as Manifest v3 does not “kill” adblockers. (Whether it cripples them or not is still subjective and does not belong in the title.)
yipbub 7y ago
The amount of negativity here is appropriate.
icegreentea2 7y ago
They announced this back in May/June - the whole 30k rules things. Current rules list easily exceed that number. They said back in May/June that they would consider looking increasing the number of rules - they clearly haven't chosen to increase the number in the intervening time. Maybe they are waiting for more actual testing, but they're not setting themselves up for an easy time. It's also honestly a little rich to worry about the performance impact of ad blocking given the performance impact of ads themselves.
TeMPOraL 7y ago
As 'yipbub says, the amount of negativity here is appropriate. The topic of Manifest V3 has been discussed to death over the past months, and the conclusion is, it does cripple ad and tracking blockers. The security benefits of this change are at best dubious[0], the performance argument is nonsense, and it really does look like the primary goal of this proposal is to make it impossible for browser extensions to effectively prevent users from being tracked. In the months since the initial proposal, Google has done nothing to suggest this is not their goal. -- [0] https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2019/07/googles-plans-chrome-extensions-wont-really-help-security https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2019/07/googles-plans-chrome-e...

by LeonM 7y ago

daRealDodo 7y ago

Thank you for giving an insight from the other side.

saagarjha 7y ago

Mods, can we have this title changed to match the article? It’s not accurate, as Manifest v3 does not “kill” adblockers. (Whether it cripples them or not is still subjective and does not belong in the title.)

yipbub 7y ago

The amount of negativity here is appropriate.

icegreentea2 7y ago

They announced this back in May/June - the whole 30k rules things. Current rules list easily exceed that number. They said back in May/June that they would consider looking increasing the number of rules - they clearly haven't chosen to increase the number in the intervening time. Maybe they are waiting for more actual testing, but they're not setting themselves up for an easy time. It's also honestly a little rich to worry about the performance impact of ad blocking given the performance impact of ads themselves.

TeMPOraL 7y ago

As 'yipbub says, the amount of negativity here is appropriate. The topic of Manifest V3 has been discussed to death over the past months, and the conclusion is, it does cripple ad and tracking blockers. The security benefits of this change are at best dubious[0], the performance argument is nonsense, and it really does look like the primary goal of this proposal is to make it impossible for browser extensions to effectively prevent users from being tracked. In the months since the initial proposal, Google has done nothing to suggest this is not their goal. -- [0] https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2019/07/googles-plans-chrome-extensions-wont-really-help-security https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2019/07/googles-plans-chrome-e...