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Not a huge secret that they have a 64-core Threadripper 3990x ready to go. But also no hurry to release it, as even the 24 core wipes the floor with anything I

• LoSboccacc 7y ago
  > wipes the floor with anything Intel has to offer * in synthetic benchmarks that uses down to the last core edit: my bad I mistook this for a technical audience
  • pdimitar 7y ago
    Single-core CPU performance is at a peak. There aren't any revolutionary increases expected there anytime soon. Milticore performance gets more and more important with time.
    • LoSboccacc 7y ago
      > Milticore performance gets more and more important with time. no? above 2-4 core it's just marketing hype like it was ten years ago already and today if you need parallel processing you have vastly powerful resources to tap. sure this amd cpu might be faster in 3d rendering or video encoding or other task that use 4+ cores and that might be useful if you truly can't move them onto a gpu but truth is at the top end many-cores architectures are getting squeezed out by streaming processors and the workloads that have a hard dependency on many core single node general processor are rarer by the day.
      • pdimitar 7y ago
        Threadripper is proven to do extremely well in parallel compilation benchmarks -- the Linux kernel build process being the chief example. I've seen the numbers on at least 4 sites (Phoronix included). It's not only about 3D. We're talking everyday programmer productivity, partially achieved by less waiting around when compiling your projects.
        • LoSboccacc 7y ago
          > everyday programmer productivity > the Linux kernel build process
          • joaobeno 7y ago
            Yea, what is this BS Linux kernel build process that is a known metric that everyone can test against? I compile projects dozens of times a day at my work and never once I compiled the linux kernel...
            • pdimitar 7y ago
              It's an extreme case to demonstrate if a CPU's multicore performance is clearly better than previous generations. For what it's worth, I migrated from a consumer-grade i7 CPU to a workstation-grade Xeon and the differences in compile speeds in my everyday projects (less than 400 files) are still significant and very noticeably in favour of the Xeon. Linux kernel compilation is just a benchmark that multiplies such differences between CPUs. Thus the buyers can -- hopefully -- make a more informed decision.
              • LoSboccacc 7y ago
                weird, I've a 9000+ files maven monster and intellij incremental build means I've never have to wait for compilation during normal operations, and this is with a meager i7 8550u
                • pdimitar 7y ago
                  Well, it's an incremental build. I am talking occasionally changing dependencies in a project written in a dynamic-but-compiled language, which leads to full rebuilds. The difference was big. It also has tooling for "watching" test directories and auto re-running tests when certain files are changed -- which utilises incremental compilation under the hood and there indeed there is no visible compilation performance difference.
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    • pmjordan 7y ago
      Single-core CPU performance is at a peak. There aren't any revolutionary increases expected there anytime soon. To be fair, Ice Lake/Sunny Cove seems to introduce a significant IPC improvement. It's currently stuck in low-power dual core CPUs due to Intel's 10nm yield woes. (allegedly quad cores have launched too, but I haven't seen any reviews of devices based on those?) But presumably it will eventually percolate up the product stack and give desktop processors a solid boost too. So that particular fight doesn't look anywhere near over just yet. (Zen+ to Zen2 was also a decent IPC bump, so no reason to believe AMD have hit a wall in that regard either - I'm sure they're scrambling to make another leap in Zen3/4 that compares favourably with the Skylake->Sunny Cove one to preempt Intel retaking the crown.)
  • simion314 7y ago
    What is ironic is that after Intel lost some benchmarks it decided to update the previous benchmarks suite they were using to "real world" tests, what I understand from this is that "real world" means the benchmarks wher Intel is in fron or not much behind.
  • alecmg 7y ago
    This IS a worstation segment which likes cores. But also Zen 2 core at 4.5 GHz is faster than Skylake core at 4.5GHz (about the peak boost in Intel HEDT) also in single threaded tasks.
• Symmetry 7y ago
  I wonder how many problems can make full use of those cores given only four RAM channels? Our robotic grasping problems certainly could but I know we're a bit of an outlier in that way.
• Koshkin 7y ago
  On the other hand, I am beginning to miss the times when things could be done on a single core CPU...