All of those are pretty awful, honestly. There's no guarantee of permanence like the original had (first one shut down due to hacked map, second due to mass dup

All of those are pretty awful, honestly. There's no guarantee of permanence like the original had (first one shut down due to hacked map, second due to mass duping ruining the economy), the admins are pretty one sided, and the culture is ruined due to everyone focusing on building megavaults. Ttk did do well with Altheanet, yeah. I think he's on this forum as well.