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Hmm that sounds like "Geomocracy" which is a video my brother made. https://youtu.be/ZVroI2_o5QA https://youtu.be/ZVroI2_o5QA I found the idea to be to be sill

Hmm that sounds like "Geomocracy" which is a video my brother made. https://youtu.be/ZVroI2_o5QA https://youtu.be/ZVroI2_o5QA I found the idea to be to be silly an naive but perhaps he was on to something I didnt understand. As for voluntarist society. I dont think such a think is really a coherent idea because the concept of voluntary is ill conceived. To give you and example I could totally argue that you already live in a completely voluntary country. You had a choice of N places to live and you choose that one. It may not have been a real choice but the lack of choice does not enter into the narrow conception of what voluntary is! So long as there was no direct physical coercion you are contractually obligated to be a citizen of your state.

raintrees 7y ago
Physical coercion could be used to describe the action taken when property taxes are not paid, loitering or vagary gives offense, etc. I never signed the contract, either. Nor did my parents, and I would bet that goes back a few generations. So rather than generalizations that can get out of hand, I prefer to focus on smaller, one-on-one and one-on-a-few situations where different choices of conduct can be employed - I prefer non-coercive, voluntarily entered-into agreements. I hope to check out the video, thanks for the link.
raintrees 7y ago
Here is a summary of network effect involving general government I agree with: http://charleshughsmith.blogspot.com/2019/11/corporate-america-is-anti-social-black.html http://charleshughsmith.blogspot.com/2019/11/corporate-ameri...
- petermcneeley 7y ago
  It's odd because this article really doesn't have much to do with government. Currently there is not much in the way of government regulation that makes Facebook or Google dominant. And in the case of the opioids crisis it's actually a lack of oversight and regulation.
raintrees 7y ago
I watched the video - I prefer personal freedom resolved at as small a level as possible, rather than ideas submitted to experts/researchers (who chooses the experts?) then managed over by administrators (again who chooses this roster?). And why is "the concept of voluntary ill conceived"? Taken at face value, that sentence means people should not have freedom over themselves or their property... Also known as a definition of slavery.
- petermcneeley 7y ago
  Yes but serfdom is compatible with a voluntary society so in the end what's the difference? Serfs were born with nothing and had to bind themselves to a Lord to live. There was also no land that was not parseled out to an owner so there really was no where to go except to choose between hard masters.

raintrees 7y ago

Physical coercion could be used to describe the action taken when property taxes are not paid, loitering or vagary gives offense, etc. I never signed the contract, either. Nor did my parents, and I would bet that goes back a few generations. So rather than generalizations that can get out of hand, I prefer to focus on smaller, one-on-one and one-on-a-few situations where different choices of conduct can be employed - I prefer non-coercive, voluntarily entered-into agreements. I hope to check out the video, thanks for the link.

raintrees 7y ago

Here is a summary of network effect involving general government I agree with: http://charleshughsmith.blogspot.com/2019/11/corporate-america-is-anti-social-black.html http://charleshughsmith.blogspot.com/2019/11/corporate-ameri...

petermcneeley 7y ago
It's odd because this article really doesn't have much to do with government. Currently there is not much in the way of government regulation that makes Facebook or Google dominant. And in the case of the opioids crisis it's actually a lack of oversight and regulation.

raintrees 7y ago

I watched the video - I prefer personal freedom resolved at as small a level as possible, rather than ideas submitted to experts/researchers (who chooses the experts?) then managed over by administrators (again who chooses this roster?). And why is "the concept of voluntary ill conceived"? Taken at face value, that sentence means people should not have freedom over themselves or their property... Also known as a definition of slavery.

petermcneeley 7y ago
Yes but serfdom is compatible with a voluntary society so in the end what's the difference? Serfs were born with nothing and had to bind themselves to a Lord to live. There was also no land that was not parseled out to an owner so there really was no where to go except to choose between hard masters.