I certainly have met engineering managers worth their salt. The best place to observe the need for management is in teams like, 20 relatively inexperienced eng

I certainly have met engineering managers worth their salt. The best place to observe the need for management is in teams like, 20 relatively inexperienced engineers, all reporting to a single manager. I have never seen a team like this that is operating at 100% of the engineers’ capabilities. People end up wasting time on disagreements, building things that end up not needed, jumping from emergency to emergency, not using best practices, all sorts of things. If you find a good manager and split those people into two teams of 10 engineers, that change will make that team much more productive.