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It's true. I have kept giving Firefox another chance over time but haven't been convinced. Recently, I tried Firefox again on Windows. And the experience is am

by asadkn 7y ago

It's true. I have kept giving Firefox another chance over time but haven't been convinced. Recently, I tried Firefox again on Windows. And the experience is amazing indeed - faster, smoother, and with trackers blocking, very pleasant. And with strict protection, that's sort-of a builtin ad blocker. Something still feels off on MacOS even though the last version has been a massive improvement for MBP Retina.

neogodless 7y ago
Anecdote: I use it everyday at work on a 2015 MBP Retina, now on Catalina. No problems! What feels off for you?
- notamaan 7y ago
  Lack of media key control and pinch to zoom are the 2 that stop me from using Firefox (I use Brave instead)
  - aorth 7y ago
    Pinch to zoom is in beta for some time now. From a Firefox developer on /r/firefox¹: > You can turn it on by setting 'apz.allow_zooming' to true. It sort of works but has bugs. You can track the progress and report problems that you see here: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1461360.* https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1461360.* ¹ https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/bcebze/its_2019_when_will_firefox_support_smooth_pinch/ https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/bcebze/its_2019_wh...
  - finalfantasia 7y ago
    Firefox just gained the ability to use Mac’s hardware media keys to control media playback in the latest beta/developer edition (71 right now): https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1575995 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1575995
- bobbylarrybobby 7y ago
  Scrolling doesn’t elastically over scroll; it just hits a hard stop at the page boundaries
  - zamalek 7y ago
    Apple patented the elastic scroll.
    - pbasista 7y ago
      Such a patent seems to be owned by Google: https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2012148617A3/en https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2012148617A3/en
pidg 7y ago
I gave desktop Firefox multiple chances over the course of 15 years, until that day in May when every extension stopped working.[1] That said, the mobile version seems really robust. [1] https://techcrunch.com/2019/05/03/a-glitch-is-breaking-all-firefox-extensions/ https://techcrunch.com/2019/05/03/a-glitch-is-breaking-all-f...
- beatgammit 7y ago
  What do you use instead? IMO, even with the switch to Web Extensions, Firefox still has a better selection of extensions.
  - pidg 7y ago
    Chrome.
icelancer 7y ago
I keep trying Firefox but Google services are absolutely terrible on it, and I spend a lot of time in Gmail/Drive/Docs/Hangouts so having two sets of browsers like another commenter here said is a non-starter for me (I've tried it).
- Rotareti 7y ago
  I think you have two options then: A) (if possible) migrate away from the services you mentioned. B) lock-in deeper and deeper with the biggest advertising company on the planet.
  - icelancer 7y ago
    B) is my choice and I have made peace with it. Generally speaking, the HN crowd vastly overstates how important any one person's data is and/or vastly overestimates the ability to get out of this future anyway.
    - mkd1964 7y ago
      That's the attitude of most everyone, and hence the reason it won't change. But IF.. (just if) a few hundred million people decided to ditch Chrome and Google's "services" (data collectors in disguise), Google might be forced to take notice. On the other hand, never say never to Google's dominance going out the window. They may find themselves in very deep trouble in the not too distant future.

by asadkn 7y ago

neogodless 7y ago

Anecdote: I use it everyday at work on a 2015 MBP Retina, now on Catalina. No problems! What feels off for you?

notamaan 7y ago
Lack of media key control and pinch to zoom are the 2 that stop me from using Firefox (I use Brave instead)
- aorth 7y ago
  Pinch to zoom is in beta for some time now. From a Firefox developer on /r/firefox¹: > You can turn it on by setting 'apz.allow_zooming' to true. It sort of works but has bugs. You can track the progress and report problems that you see here: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1461360.* https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1461360.* ¹ https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/bcebze/its_2019_when_will_firefox_support_smooth_pinch/ https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/bcebze/its_2019_wh...
- finalfantasia 7y ago
  Firefox just gained the ability to use Mac’s hardware media keys to control media playback in the latest beta/developer edition (71 right now): https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1575995 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1575995
bobbylarrybobby 7y ago
Scrolling doesn’t elastically over scroll; it just hits a hard stop at the page boundaries
- zamalek 7y ago
  Apple patented the elastic scroll.
  - pbasista 7y ago
    Such a patent seems to be owned by Google: https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2012148617A3/en https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2012148617A3/en

pidg 7y ago

I gave desktop Firefox multiple chances over the course of 15 years, until that day in May when every extension stopped working.[1] That said, the mobile version seems really robust. [1] https://techcrunch.com/2019/05/03/a-glitch-is-breaking-all-firefox-extensions/ https://techcrunch.com/2019/05/03/a-glitch-is-breaking-all-f...

beatgammit 7y ago
What do you use instead? IMO, even with the switch to Web Extensions, Firefox still has a better selection of extensions.
- pidg 7y ago
  Chrome.

icelancer 7y ago

I keep trying Firefox but Google services are absolutely terrible on it, and I spend a lot of time in Gmail/Drive/Docs/Hangouts so having two sets of browsers like another commenter here said is a non-starter for me (I've tried it).

Rotareti 7y ago
I think you have two options then: A) (if possible) migrate away from the services you mentioned. B) lock-in deeper and deeper with the biggest advertising company on the planet.
- icelancer 7y ago
  B) is my choice and I have made peace with it. Generally speaking, the HN crowd vastly overstates how important any one person's data is and/or vastly overestimates the ability to get out of this future anyway.
  - mkd1964 7y ago
    That's the attitude of most everyone, and hence the reason it won't change. But IF.. (just if) a few hundred million people decided to ditch Chrome and Google's "services" (data collectors in disguise), Google might be forced to take notice. On the other hand, never say never to Google's dominance going out the window. They may find themselves in very deep trouble in the not too distant future.