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I am sure there will be all sorts of (correct) actuarial arguments that driving my car to work is more deadly than flying in the v2 737, but I still don't want

I am sure there will be all sorts of (correct) actuarial arguments that driving my car to work is more deadly than flying in the v2 737, but I still don't want to ever fly in a 737. It's got the mark of Cain at this point. I doubt I'm the only one that feels that way.

333c 7y ago
As I understand it, all 737s pre-MAX are fine; you want to avoid the MAX planes because of MCAS and the new engine placement.
- inferiorhuman 7y ago
  As I understand it, all 737s pre-MAX are fine; you want to avoid the MAX planes because of MCAS and the new engine placement. Yeah, just don't pay too much attention to the structural problems that Boeing is having with the 737 NG (cracked pickle forks). The inspection threshold keeps getting lower and the scope of the inspections keeps growing.
  - iknowalot 7y ago
    What a branding disaster, tack on the name of reliable series of crafts to a flying suicide machine and destroy the whole line. I'm sure many customers will avoid 737s in general due to confusion.
    - dredmorbius 7y ago
      Branding is like leverage. There's a downside that goes with the upside.
- Swenrekcah 7y ago
  This will be such a confusion though. I’m reminded of my girlfriend who is not interested in airplanes and thinks all airplanes that start and end with a 7 are affected.
- nikanj 7y ago
  Very easy to avoid the MAX, as they remain grounded
  - 333c 7y ago
    Of course — my comment was referring to when/if they become ungrounded.
jquery 7y ago
Planes are so ungodly safe that two crashes of the same model within a year of each other is an unprecedented scandal that would bankrupt the company were it not for it being a national strategic asset. We could only dream of road safety being held to such a standard. Flying is so much safer than driving it’s a marvel that anyone steps foot in a car at all... fun fact, flying is even safer than trains by a factor of four (!!), but I have friends who refuse to fly at all because of the possibility of their plane crashing and instead drive across the country to travel.
vanniv 7y ago
If you're referring to the MAX, it is actually the v3. The 737-700/800/900 you've been flying the last decade or two was already v2 (and a very successful v2)
- uggedal 7y ago
  The MAX is actually v4 after the original (-100/200), classic (-300/400/500) and NG (-600/700/800/900).

333c 7y ago

As I understand it, all 737s pre-MAX are fine; you want to avoid the MAX planes because of MCAS and the new engine placement.

inferiorhuman 7y ago
As I understand it, all 737s pre-MAX are fine; you want to avoid the MAX planes because of MCAS and the new engine placement. Yeah, just don't pay too much attention to the structural problems that Boeing is having with the 737 NG (cracked pickle forks). The inspection threshold keeps getting lower and the scope of the inspections keeps growing.
- iknowalot 7y ago
  What a branding disaster, tack on the name of reliable series of crafts to a flying suicide machine and destroy the whole line. I'm sure many customers will avoid 737s in general due to confusion.
  - dredmorbius 7y ago
    Branding is like leverage. There's a downside that goes with the upside.
Swenrekcah 7y ago
This will be such a confusion though. I’m reminded of my girlfriend who is not interested in airplanes and thinks all airplanes that start and end with a 7 are affected.
nikanj 7y ago
Very easy to avoid the MAX, as they remain grounded
- 333c 7y ago
  Of course — my comment was referring to when/if they become ungrounded.

jquery 7y ago

Planes are so ungodly safe that two crashes of the same model within a year of each other is an unprecedented scandal that would bankrupt the company were it not for it being a national strategic asset. We could only dream of road safety being held to such a standard. Flying is so much safer than driving it’s a marvel that anyone steps foot in a car at all... fun fact, flying is even safer than trains by a factor of four (!!), but I have friends who refuse to fly at all because of the possibility of their plane crashing and instead drive across the country to travel.

vanniv 7y ago

If you're referring to the MAX, it is actually the v3. The 737-700/800/900 you've been flying the last decade or two was already v2 (and a very successful v2)

uggedal 7y ago
The MAX is actually v4 after the original (-100/200), classic (-300/400/500) and NG (-600/700/800/900).