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I would pay to have a "AT&T Certified" icon on incoming phone calls. Maybe the carriers can set up peering agreements and both AT&T and Verizon work. The vast

I would pay to have a "AT&T Certified" icon on incoming phone calls. Maybe the carriers can set up peering agreements and both AT&T and Verizon work. The vast majority of people I care about are on those carriers and I can forget about the rest. It's very hard to reform the whole system, but you have to start somewhere and this could be how.

captncraig 7y ago
That is a really great idea. Every time this comes up it boils down to "phones are old and complicated, and there are a billion unique telcos". Great. But if I only do legit business over 3 of them, why not indicate if I am leaving the "trusted zone"?
joecool1029 7y ago
> I would pay to have a "AT&T Certified" icon on incoming phone calls. Call verification is already here and rolling out progressively. System is called STIR/SHAKEN. iOS supports it as of 13.something. The UX is terrible though, all you see is a checkmark after the caller in the call log. Android might have a better situation on some phones, this system is carrier dependent. More about it here: https://www.fcc.gov/call-authentication https://www.fcc.gov/call-authentication There are scenarios where it doesn't work. Calls routed through Google Voice to my T-Mobile line will never show this checkmark. Also, not showing it onscreen for unknown incoming calls defeats the purpose, really not sure what Apple was thinking.
- nathancahill 7y ago
  I wonder if Twilio will support that. I route my GV to Twilio and then to T-Mobile to run custom logic on incoming phone calls (like filtering out all incoming calls that match the first 6 numbers of my number). Would be nice to passthrough verification.
harumph 7y ago
I am already paying my carrier entirely too much. Paying them more to do something they ought to do by default is not something I would consider. We should use law to eliminate this problem.

captncraig 7y ago

That is a really great idea. Every time this comes up it boils down to "phones are old and complicated, and there are a billion unique telcos". Great. But if I only do legit business over 3 of them, why not indicate if I am leaving the "trusted zone"?

joecool1029 7y ago

> I would pay to have a "AT&T Certified" icon on incoming phone calls. Call verification is already here and rolling out progressively. System is called STIR/SHAKEN. iOS supports it as of 13.something. The UX is terrible though, all you see is a checkmark after the caller in the call log. Android might have a better situation on some phones, this system is carrier dependent. More about it here: https://www.fcc.gov/call-authentication https://www.fcc.gov/call-authentication There are scenarios where it doesn't work. Calls routed through Google Voice to my T-Mobile line will never show this checkmark. Also, not showing it onscreen for unknown incoming calls defeats the purpose, really not sure what Apple was thinking.

nathancahill 7y ago
I wonder if Twilio will support that. I route my GV to Twilio and then to T-Mobile to run custom logic on incoming phone calls (like filtering out all incoming calls that match the first 6 numbers of my number). Would be nice to passthrough verification.

harumph 7y ago

I am already paying my carrier entirely too much. Paying them more to do something they ought to do by default is not something I would consider. We should use law to eliminate this problem.