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rectang isn't talking about the presidential election

by __s 7y ago

h5erahear5 7y ago
The claim "one dollar is one vote" is directly refuted by tyre's data. It is absolutely relevant to the assertion made. But keep on downvoting HNers, ignorance is bliss is why we come to this website after all
- pessimizer 7y ago
  One dollar being one vote is a cliché that refers to the wealthy having the most say in governance, not that US elections are literally the process of counting the individual candidates donations and declaring the candidate that got the most the winner. Also, stop playing the victim.
- bduerst 7y ago
  Tyre didn't provide data, and neither did you. The 2016 election was complex, especially due to the foreign influence, campaign hacking, fraudulent spending, and free coverage from media. The fact that both the president's campaign manager and his personal lawyer (also RNC finance chair) are currently in prison points to there not being clear visibility into his campaign spending to this day. This doesn't refute the fact that wealth correlates with influence in U.S. politics, in fact, you could even say that a billionaire winning an election supports it. Also, why did you create an account for just this comment?
  - cwkoss 7y ago
    Even more complex as the Clinton campaign colluded with the media to deliberately elevate Trump as part of their "pied piper strategy" to promote candidates they perceived as easy-to-beat. https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/fileid/1120/251 https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/fileid/1120/251 Pretty depressing to consider that a portion of donations to the HRC campaign in 2015 were spent promoting Trump.
    - bduerst 7y ago
      Hillary Clinton is currently not the president, and those surrounding her campaign are not currently in prison for fraud. Please stop deflecting to conspiracies that are not relevant.
      - cwkoss 7y ago
        Did you read the linked document? It is an internal document from HRC's campaign. If you're analyzing why Trump won, knowing that her campaign intentionally elevated his campaign is certainly relevant. I hope our country can take off the hyperpartisan tribalist blinders and address the reality of why Trump won so we don't end up with another 4 years of him.

rectang isn't talking about the presidential election

by __s 7y ago

rectang isn't talking about the presidential election

The claim "one dollar is one vote" is directly refuted by tyre's data. It is absolutely relevant to the assertion made. But keep on downvoting HNers, ignorance is bliss is why we come to this website after all

pessimizer 7y ago
One dollar being one vote is a cliché that refers to the wealthy having the most say in governance, not that US elections are literally the process of counting the individual candidates donations and declaring the candidate that got the most the winner. Also, stop playing the victim.
bduerst 7y ago
Tyre didn't provide data, and neither did you. The 2016 election was complex, especially due to the foreign influence, campaign hacking, fraudulent spending, and free coverage from media. The fact that both the president's campaign manager and his personal lawyer (also RNC finance chair) are currently in prison points to there not being clear visibility into his campaign spending to this day. This doesn't refute the fact that wealth correlates with influence in U.S. politics, in fact, you could even say that a billionaire winning an election supports it. Also, why did you create an account for just this comment?
- cwkoss 7y ago
  Even more complex as the Clinton campaign colluded with the media to deliberately elevate Trump as part of their "pied piper strategy" to promote candidates they perceived as easy-to-beat. https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/fileid/1120/251 https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/fileid/1120/251 Pretty depressing to consider that a portion of donations to the HRC campaign in 2015 were spent promoting Trump.
  - bduerst 7y ago
    Hillary Clinton is currently not the president, and those surrounding her campaign are not currently in prison for fraud. Please stop deflecting to conspiracies that are not relevant.
    - cwkoss 7y ago
      Did you read the linked document? It is an internal document from HRC's campaign. If you're analyzing why Trump won, knowing that her campaign intentionally elevated his campaign is certainly relevant. I hope our country can take off the hyperpartisan tribalist blinders and address the reality of why Trump won so we don't end up with another 4 years of him.