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I remember asking my high school English teacher if I could use the contraction "shouldn't've" for "should not have." She said no. I still disagree.

chapium 7y ago
I'd go with should not've for better clarity.
macintux 7y ago
A perfectly valid construction. My science teacher once insisted rivers couldn't flow north because on a globe, north is up. So, yeah, education is a bit of a mixed bag.
- Marsymars 7y ago
  > My science teacher once insisted rivers couldn't flow north because on a globe, north is up. Did he just not consider, say, the Nile?
  - chopin 7y ago
    Or the Rhine. Maybe there is no north bound river where the GP lived?
    - macintux 7y ago
      The closest large one I’m aware of is the Maumee, and that’s a few hours away. We pointed out the Nile on the globe. Even that wasn’t convincing apparently.
- teddyh 7y ago
  > My science teacher once insisted rivers couldn't flow north because on a globe, north is up. That one seems to be common, oddly enough: http://machall.com/view.php?date=2005-04-06 http://machall.com/view.php?date=2005-04-06 EDIT: After doing some web searches, it seems that this myth, just like robocalls, is also a uniquely U.S. phenomenon, possibly caused by the fact that U.S. geography causes many (possibly most) U.S. rivers to run southwards, even though contrary examples (even within the U.S.) are legion.
saalweachter 7y ago
Prescriptionists gonna prescribe. In vernacular speech, "have" is just contracted left and right; I can actually remember when I realized "'ve" was different from "of", and it wasn't "should of, could of, would of" but "should've, could've, would've". "That better've not been my cupcake you ate." "Do you think you should maybe've put your name on it?"
dan-robertson 7y ago
I quite like y’all’d’ve’d for “you all would have had”, eg “I’m sorry your flight was cancelled, y’all’d’ve’d a great time here”

chapium 7y ago

I'd go with should not've for better clarity.

macintux 7y ago

A perfectly valid construction. My science teacher once insisted rivers couldn't flow north because on a globe, north is up. So, yeah, education is a bit of a mixed bag.

Marsymars 7y ago
> My science teacher once insisted rivers couldn't flow north because on a globe, north is up. Did he just not consider, say, the Nile?
- chopin 7y ago
  Or the Rhine. Maybe there is no north bound river where the GP lived?
  - macintux 7y ago
    The closest large one I’m aware of is the Maumee, and that’s a few hours away. We pointed out the Nile on the globe. Even that wasn’t convincing apparently.
teddyh 7y ago
> My science teacher once insisted rivers couldn't flow north because on a globe, north is up. That one seems to be common, oddly enough: http://machall.com/view.php?date=2005-04-06 http://machall.com/view.php?date=2005-04-06 EDIT: After doing some web searches, it seems that this myth, just like robocalls, is also a uniquely U.S. phenomenon, possibly caused by the fact that U.S. geography causes many (possibly most) U.S. rivers to run southwards, even though contrary examples (even within the U.S.) are legion.

saalweachter 7y ago

Prescriptionists gonna prescribe. In vernacular speech, "have" is just contracted left and right; I can actually remember when I realized "'ve" was different from "of", and it wasn't "should of, could of, would of" but "should've, could've, would've". "That better've not been my cupcake you ate." "Do you think you should maybe've put your name on it?"

dan-robertson 7y ago

I quite like y’all’d’ve’d for “you all would have had”, eg “I’m sorry your flight was cancelled, y’all’d’ve’d a great time here”