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That's what others here have conjectured. Suddenly it's authoritative?

dredmorbius 7y ago
Look up two-digit date fields, packed-decimal, zoned-decimal, bitfields, and other encoded-field datatypes. All were explicitly created to save on data storage, when the main transmission medium was punch cards. The rationalisation is not conjecture. It's fact. Bits and baud were expensive. And that's before getting to bitshifted storage of software and similar tricks. SABRE dates from the 1950s. Which was a long time ago in Internet Years. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabre_(computer_system) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabre_(computer_system) The computer it was based, the IBM 7090, on had memory storage of 32,768 words of 36 bits, about 64 KB using today's 16-bit byte. It operated at 100 kflops/s. A modern AMD-64 CPU tends around 4-64 flops per cycle, or in the neighbourhood of 4-250 gigaflops/s, up to about 2 billion times faster. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_7090 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_7090 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FLOPS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FLOPS
- rdiddly 7y ago
  I've programmed on punched cards. System/360, FORTRAN77. Carter administration. Whether history exists or not, is not the question. Whether byte misers from long ago caused this name-mangling issue, that's the conjecture part. At least one aspect of the guy's complaint was of recent origin, and ironically that was from arbitrarily insisting the name be longer than it is.
  - dredmorbius 7y ago
    The SE answer links to the relevant documentation. Spaces are indeed optional. It's not explicitly documented that a non-whitespaced 'MR' is read as a title, but it seems likely. http://www.amadeus.com/bg/documents/aco/bg/basic-qrg.pdf http://www.amadeus.com/bg/documents/aco/bg/basic-qrg.pdf
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    - rdiddly 7y ago
      Well I'm convinced then. That's nuts. Not so much that something so crappy can exist, but that it can persist!
coldtea 7y ago
Yes, because some of the "others" were actually there, then...

Look up two-digit date fields, packed-decimal, zoned-decimal, bitfields, and other encoded-field datatypes. All were explicitly created to save on data storage, when the main transmission medium was punch cards. The rationalisation is not conjecture. It's fact. Bits and baud were expensive. And that's before getting to bitshifted storage of software and similar tricks. SABRE dates from the 1950s. Which was a long time ago in Internet Years. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabre_(computer_system) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabre_(computer_system) The computer it was based, the IBM 7090, on had memory storage of 32,768 words of 36 bits, about 64 KB using today's 16-bit byte. It operated at 100 kflops/s. A modern AMD-64 CPU tends around 4-64 flops per cycle, or in the neighbourhood of 4-250 gigaflops/s, up to about 2 billion times faster. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_7090 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_7090 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FLOPS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FLOPS

rdiddly 7y ago
I've programmed on punched cards. System/360, FORTRAN77. Carter administration. Whether history exists or not, is not the question. Whether byte misers from long ago caused this name-mangling issue, that's the conjecture part. At least one aspect of the guy's complaint was of recent origin, and ironically that was from arbitrarily insisting the name be longer than it is.
- dredmorbius 7y ago
  The SE answer links to the relevant documentation. Spaces are indeed optional. It's not explicitly documented that a non-whitespaced 'MR' is read as a title, but it seems likely. http://www.amadeus.com/bg/documents/aco/bg/basic-qrg.pdf http://www.amadeus.com/bg/documents/aco/bg/basic-qrg.pdf
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  - rdiddly 7y ago
    Well I'm convinced then. That's nuts. Not so much that something so crappy can exist, but that it can persist!

coldtea 7y ago

Yes, because some of the "others" were actually there, then...