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Why did Trump get 30% of the Hispanic vote? In South Florida, Hispanics love him (yet he can famously be heard talking about building a wall, which would have k

Why did Trump get 30% of the Hispanic vote? In South Florida, Hispanics love him (yet he can famously be heard talking about building a wall, which would have kept them and their family out)

lr4444lr 7y ago
Perhaps because news media, created by people no less fallible than you and I, are intent on casting him and his supporters in a certain light. Many directing this will claim fears, some real, some imagined. Personally, I'm more disturbed by the implication behind the congratulatory applause they gave at his predecessor's send off from the final Whitehouse correspondents dinner.
JeffL 7y ago
I'm sure there are as many reasons as people, but I would guess one common thread might be that the ones who came here legally resent the ones that broke the law to come here.
- MuffinFlavored 7y ago
  If somebody's family came from Cuba on a tire raft, does that most likely mean they did not come over legally?
  - umanwizard 7y ago
    No, it doesn't. If they came before 2017, they were legal the instant their tire raft touched US soil. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wet_feet,_dry_feet_policy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wet_feet,_dry_feet_policy
umanwizard 7y ago
Hispanics in South Florida (or their ancestors) came by sea, not land. A wall wouldn’t have kept them out. Despite US culture’s obsession with slotting people into racial categories like “Hispanic”, Cubans in Florida actually have very little in common with Mexicans and Mexican-Americans in California, Texas and the Southwest.
- MuffinFlavored 7y ago
  Excuse my ignorance but, if South Florida had a wall, couldn't people not get in by sea? I know Trump was not discussing adding a wall to anything other than the southern border. I just felt that the premise of "I want to keep Hispanics from entering the country" would apply to people coming by sea as well.
  - umanwizard 7y ago
    Are you asking if, theoretically, a wall could be built in the sea to keep Cubans from reaching Florida? Whether that’s the case or not, I’m not sure how it’s relevant to the discussion of who Florida Cubans align with politically, since it hasn’t been proposed or discussed by Trump or anyone else.
the_gastropod 7y ago
South Florida is a bit of an unusual case. Cubans, understandably, are suspicious of socialism and really love Ronald Reagan. Republicans tend to benefit from these things.
thaumasiotes 7y ago
Hispanics in South Florida are a very different group from Hispanics in the US generally. The typical Hispanic in the US context is a poor migrant from Mexico. The typical Hispanic in Florida is a rich refugee from Cuba. Is there any particular reason to conceive of these people as belonging to the same interest group(s)? No. Do they even like each other? No.

Why did Trump get 30% of the Hispanic vote? In South Florida, Hispanics love him (yet he can famously be heard talking about building a wall, which would have kept them and their family out)

lr4444lr 7y ago

Perhaps because news media, created by people no less fallible than you and I, are intent on casting him and his supporters in a certain light. Many directing this will claim fears, some real, some imagined. Personally, I'm more disturbed by the implication behind the congratulatory applause they gave at his predecessor's send off from the final Whitehouse correspondents dinner.

JeffL 7y ago

I'm sure there are as many reasons as people, but I would guess one common thread might be that the ones who came here legally resent the ones that broke the law to come here.

MuffinFlavored 7y ago
If somebody's family came from Cuba on a tire raft, does that most likely mean they did not come over legally?
- umanwizard 7y ago
  No, it doesn't. If they came before 2017, they were legal the instant their tire raft touched US soil. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wet_feet,_dry_feet_policy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wet_feet,_dry_feet_policy

umanwizard 7y ago

Hispanics in South Florida (or their ancestors) came by sea, not land. A wall wouldn’t have kept them out. Despite US culture’s obsession with slotting people into racial categories like “Hispanic”, Cubans in Florida actually have very little in common with Mexicans and Mexican-Americans in California, Texas and the Southwest.

MuffinFlavored 7y ago
Excuse my ignorance but, if South Florida had a wall, couldn't people not get in by sea? I know Trump was not discussing adding a wall to anything other than the southern border. I just felt that the premise of "I want to keep Hispanics from entering the country" would apply to people coming by sea as well.
- umanwizard 7y ago
  Are you asking if, theoretically, a wall could be built in the sea to keep Cubans from reaching Florida? Whether that’s the case or not, I’m not sure how it’s relevant to the discussion of who Florida Cubans align with politically, since it hasn’t been proposed or discussed by Trump or anyone else.

the_gastropod 7y ago

South Florida is a bit of an unusual case. Cubans, understandably, are suspicious of socialism and really love Ronald Reagan. Republicans tend to benefit from these things.

thaumasiotes 7y ago

Hispanics in South Florida are a very different group from Hispanics in the US generally. The typical Hispanic in the US context is a poor migrant from Mexico. The typical Hispanic in Florida is a rich refugee from Cuba. Is there any particular reason to conceive of these people as belonging to the same interest group(s)? No. Do they even like each other? No.