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oh wow! there must be more backstory to this. finding it hard to believe that whole google accounts got suspended for spamming a youtube video chat!

wlesieutre 7y ago
This is why I avoid as many google properties as possible. Who even knows what actions might get my Gmail account disabled. And when they do, there’s no chance of their support system fixing it. The ban bot decided a rule was violated, and when reviewing its decision the ban bot unsurprisingly decides the same thing on appeal. So no, I’m not going to start shopping with Google Wallet no matter how many coupon offers they send me.
- tzfld 7y ago
  I would not rely on a third party (especially a platform with so inconsistent behavior and unclear rules) when talking about an irreplaceable asset.
  - wlesieutre 7y ago
    Yeah, switching to a better email provider is on my to do list, but it’s a big project that I’ll get around to “someday”. Easier to fly under Google’s radar.
    - falcolas 7y ago
      I'm sure some of those commenters in the video stream believed the same thing.
      - wlesieutre 7y ago
        They made the critical mistake of touching a second Google product
- fencepost 7y ago
  And of course the not-stated-but-there "You can never use an Android phone again, switch to iPhone or a feature phone." Sure you could create a new Google account and use that with your phone, but Google's going to know it's the same person (same phone number, places where you have to enter your name, same credit card info if you're purchasing any apps on the Play store, same physical location and movement patterns, etc.) and can simply ban you again. You'd like to have Chrome syncing things between a desktop and laptop? Nope nope nope.
throwaway2048 7y ago
Apparently emails were sent by Google to support, to their GMail accounts, which they are banned from...
abnry 7y ago
Google's management of YouTube has been terrible the past several years. I don't find it hard to believe there isn't more to the story.
ganeshkrishnan 7y ago
Sometimes there is not much back story. Google has banned entire accounts for far less; not using Google wallet, apps similar to each other, using donation links. You lose everything, drive, Gmail, domain accounts, AdWords, chrome login.. wait until they make Google search only to registered users

wlesieutre 7y ago

This is why I avoid as many google properties as possible. Who even knows what actions might get my Gmail account disabled. And when they do, there’s no chance of their support system fixing it. The ban bot decided a rule was violated, and when reviewing its decision the ban bot unsurprisingly decides the same thing on appeal. So no, I’m not going to start shopping with Google Wallet no matter how many coupon offers they send me.

tzfld 7y ago
I would not rely on a third party (especially a platform with so inconsistent behavior and unclear rules) when talking about an irreplaceable asset.
- wlesieutre 7y ago
  Yeah, switching to a better email provider is on my to do list, but it’s a big project that I’ll get around to “someday”. Easier to fly under Google’s radar.
  - falcolas 7y ago
    I'm sure some of those commenters in the video stream believed the same thing.
    - wlesieutre 7y ago
      They made the critical mistake of touching a second Google product
fencepost 7y ago
And of course the not-stated-but-there "You can never use an Android phone again, switch to iPhone or a feature phone." Sure you could create a new Google account and use that with your phone, but Google's going to know it's the same person (same phone number, places where you have to enter your name, same credit card info if you're purchasing any apps on the Play store, same physical location and movement patterns, etc.) and can simply ban you again. You'd like to have Chrome syncing things between a desktop and laptop? Nope nope nope.

throwaway2048 7y ago

Apparently emails were sent by Google to support, to their GMail accounts, which they are banned from...

abnry 7y ago

Google's management of YouTube has been terrible the past several years. I don't find it hard to believe there isn't more to the story.

ganeshkrishnan 7y ago

Sometimes there is not much back story. Google has banned entire accounts for far less; not using Google wallet, apps similar to each other, using donation links. You lose everything, drive, Gmail, domain accounts, AdWords, chrome login.. wait until they make Google search only to registered users