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Swift has been made available for Linux for the past four years: https://swift.org/download/#releases https://swift.org/download/#releases https://www.digital

Swift has been made available for Linux for the past four years: https://swift.org/download/#releases https://swift.org/download/#releases https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-swift-and-vapor-on-ubuntu-16-04 https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-inst... I’m not sure what’s missing as far as libraries, other than UIKit.

_bxg1 7y ago
Didn't realize the Linux version was offered through the official channels. That's something. Still, to truly compete it would need to have Windows support too. And ideally real buy-in from at least one other major tech company.
- shanev 7y ago
  IBM uses Swift for mobile apps https://developer.ibm.com/swift/2015/12/03/introducing-the-ibm-swift-sandbox/ https://developer.ibm.com/swift/2015/12/03/introducing-the-i... and develops Kitura (https://www.ibm.com/cloud/swift https://www.ibm.com/cloud/swift), a Swift web framework.
  - nl 7y ago
    IBM is no longer offering that Swift mobile dev kit. The IBM Swift Sandbox is no longer available as of January 2018.
    - gok 7y ago
      The kit is available, the web browser sandbox isn't.
- dwaite 7y ago
  https://dev.azure.com/compnerd/windows-swift https://dev.azure.com/compnerd/windows-swift "Support" is the kicker - I consider C# and C++ to have Windows Support because the platform vendor publishes and provides support for their own developer tools. Do you mean that, or maybe something closer to the level of "Support" where interested parties submit improvements, and platforms are included in the CI/CD process?
  - skohan 7y ago
    > Windows Support because the platform vendor publishes and provides support for their own developer tools. It's not from Microsoft directly, but it's worth noting that LSP support for Swift is under active development. VSCode is probably currently the second-best IDE for Swift development.
- skohan 7y ago
  As the other poster has mentioned, IBM has put a lot of effort into server-side swift. Also Google is investing in Swift for Tensorflow, which means there is a team at Google who's job it is to work on the Swift compiler every day. edit: If you want you can use Swift on Google Colab right now: https://colab.research.google.com/github/tensorflow/swift/blob/master/docs/site/tutorials/model_training_walkthrough.ipynb https://colab.research.google.com/github/tensorflow/swift/bl...
  - kevsim 7y ago
    A team that is lead by Chris Lattner, creator of Swift. Not bad!
    - pjmlp 7y ago
      Which is why Swift with its poor CUDA and Windows support instead of Julia.
skohan 7y ago
> I’m not sure what’s missing as far as libraries, other than UIKit. It's quite usable. A couple years ago, I tried Swift for Linux when it came out, and it was a dreadful experience. But now I do things with Swift in Docker containers and basically don't think about it. There's a few things which aren't implemented (IIRC things like XML parsing support) but it's mostly things I wouldn't use or would use a library for anyway.

_bxg1 7y ago

Didn't realize the Linux version was offered through the official channels. That's something. Still, to truly compete it would need to have Windows support too. And ideally real buy-in from at least one other major tech company.

shanev 7y ago
IBM uses Swift for mobile apps https://developer.ibm.com/swift/2015/12/03/introducing-the-ibm-swift-sandbox/ https://developer.ibm.com/swift/2015/12/03/introducing-the-i... and develops Kitura (https://www.ibm.com/cloud/swift https://www.ibm.com/cloud/swift), a Swift web framework.
- nl 7y ago
  IBM is no longer offering that Swift mobile dev kit. The IBM Swift Sandbox is no longer available as of January 2018.
  - gok 7y ago
    The kit is available, the web browser sandbox isn't.
dwaite 7y ago
https://dev.azure.com/compnerd/windows-swift https://dev.azure.com/compnerd/windows-swift "Support" is the kicker - I consider C# and C++ to have Windows Support because the platform vendor publishes and provides support for their own developer tools. Do you mean that, or maybe something closer to the level of "Support" where interested parties submit improvements, and platforms are included in the CI/CD process?
- skohan 7y ago
  > Windows Support because the platform vendor publishes and provides support for their own developer tools. It's not from Microsoft directly, but it's worth noting that LSP support for Swift is under active development. VSCode is probably currently the second-best IDE for Swift development.
skohan 7y ago
As the other poster has mentioned, IBM has put a lot of effort into server-side swift. Also Google is investing in Swift for Tensorflow, which means there is a team at Google who's job it is to work on the Swift compiler every day. edit: If you want you can use Swift on Google Colab right now: https://colab.research.google.com/github/tensorflow/swift/blob/master/docs/site/tutorials/model_training_walkthrough.ipynb https://colab.research.google.com/github/tensorflow/swift/bl...
- kevsim 7y ago
  A team that is lead by Chris Lattner, creator of Swift. Not bad!
  - pjmlp 7y ago
    Which is why Swift with its poor CUDA and Windows support instead of Julia.

skohan 7y ago

> I’m not sure what’s missing as far as libraries, other than UIKit. It's quite usable. A couple years ago, I tried Swift for Linux when it came out, and it was a dreadful experience. But now I do things with Swift in Docker containers and basically don't think about it. There's a few things which aren't implemented (IIRC things like XML parsing support) but it's mostly things I wouldn't use or would use a library for anyway.