6 ms·
> Remember when people had a conniption about Chrome auto updating and now literally all software does that? Sure. And is that a good thing? From a developer's
by datalist 7y ago
> Remember when people had a conniption about Chrome auto updating and now literally all software does that?
Sure. And is that a good thing? From a developer's perspective maybe, from a user's not so much.
> Remember when using tabs was kind of a chore and not really worth the effort?
No, I dont. Tabs have not fundamentally changed since they were introduced in NetCaptor some twenty years ago. Yes, you can drag and drop them now, but thats basically it.
If anything, tabs have de-evolved. Chrome never allowed any customisation and Firefox stopped supporting it (e.g. vertical tabs) when they switched to "Quantum".
> Remember when the chrome of a browser would take up 10% of the screen? Remember when browsers had an address bar and a search bar?
If that was Google's only achievement ;)
> Remember when installing extensions was a huge, painful process?
I dont. Installing extensions was never any of that. It was always fairly straightforward in Firefox and has not really changed since the first versions, again some twenty years ago :)
- majewsky 7y ago> Chrome never allowed any customisation and Firefox stopped supporting it (e.g. vertical tabs) when they switched to "Quantum". Current Firefox has vertical tabs, with the Tree Style Tab extension (like it always has been). The only UI difference is that TST cannot hide the horizontal tab bar automatically, but it will explain to you on first use how to do that.
- datalist 7y agoTrue, they kind of managed to semi-port that but it still rather is a crutch. My point was though the claim Chrome fundamentally improved how we use tabs simply is nonfactual.
- eropple 7y agoChrome made tabs practical through multiprocess browsing. Firefox would happily let a backgrounded tab wedge the entire process and it took many years for them to rectify that.
- datalist 7y agoFirst, this is an exaggeration in my opinion. Second, this is only peripherally related to tabs and how they are used.
- eropple 7y agoIt’s presumptive of you to call it an exaggeration and it’s wrong to say it’s “only peripherally related to tabs.” JavaScript-heavy web apps came along well before Firefox could deal with them well. Leaving Google Docs in a background tab while somebody else was editing the same document would faceplant Firefox for years. Making a tab-centric workflow viable with complex applications by isolating them in their own process space and minimizing their impact on the UI process was revolutionary. Firefox is awesome now. We can celebrate that without rewriting the past.
- tekknik 7y agoSo using a Google product on a non Google browser while they’re trying to gain marketshare for said browser didn’t work well (and presumably would push you towards using said browser)? Color me surprised.
- eropple 7y agoI mean you get that Chrome exists because Google wanted to do more with a web page, yeah? And that Firefox wasn’t up for it at the time? Chrome’s approach enabled new things and I knew somebody was mgoing to /r/iamverysmart about my example being a Google app—but Google Docs is my go-to example exactly because at the time nobody else really made a web app with some weight to it. Chrome enabled them to be mainstream and for that it deserves a lot of credit. But there is no super secret MakeFirefoxSlow.js in Google Docs. There never was. Firefox was slow and poorly designed by comparison. Firefox has now improved. It’s great. I don’t even use Chrome anymore. But I’m really allergic to this kind of galaxy-braining.
- datalist 7y ago