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It's fine to want those things, but I think the "entitlement" idea comes from people who believe it is okay to have those things without paying for them. It is

by wilg 7y ago

It's fine to want those things, but I think the "entitlement" idea comes from people who believe it is okay to have those things without paying for them. It is analogous (or maybe identical) to stealing something you don't need because you think the price is too high. The appropriate response is not to steal it and also not to buy it.

sjy 7y ago
The entitlement idea comes from the fact that bundling undermines market mechanisms and is sometimes illegal. Consumers are not entitled to free products, but nor are vendors entitled to unlimited discretion in the way they sell their products. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tying_(commerce) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tying_(commerce)
- wilg 7y ago
  I'd be happy to hear a legal argument about this type of bundling, but the issue I was talking about was what to do when you're faced with a bundle you don't want. I don't think you should steal (or "steal" if you prefer) unless it's a crucial need, like food or shelter.
zamadatix 7y ago
I think there is a world of difference between stealing a bicycle and making a copy of it without paying for the design. The same holds true in content. Taking a blu ray off the shelf is theft, downloading the movie via torrent is software piracy. Personally I have 4 streaming subscriptions but I watch none of them, I pirate it all anyways. Nobody is at a great loss because I didn't walk over to my TV to watch Netflix in 4k. Netflix is actually saving money by having me torrent it to watch in 4k on my PC. There are extremely large groups of people that feel "entitled" to a usable product in this sense, whether it be on the go watching, quality on their devices, the rampant "bundling" issues getting worse with fragmentation, or other reasons. People don't feel entitled to content for free it's just becoming harder to pay for it via streaming the same as it was after a while on cable. Either way people aren't stealing content, at worst a fraction of the people copying it aren't paying when they would have otherwise.

by wilg 7y ago

sjy 7y ago

The entitlement idea comes from the fact that bundling undermines market mechanisms and is sometimes illegal. Consumers are not entitled to free products, but nor are vendors entitled to unlimited discretion in the way they sell their products. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tying_(commerce) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tying_(commerce)

wilg 7y ago
I'd be happy to hear a legal argument about this type of bundling, but the issue I was talking about was what to do when you're faced with a bundle you don't want. I don't think you should steal (or "steal" if you prefer) unless it's a crucial need, like food or shelter.

zamadatix 7y ago

I think there is a world of difference between stealing a bicycle and making a copy of it without paying for the design. The same holds true in content. Taking a blu ray off the shelf is theft, downloading the movie via torrent is software piracy. Personally I have 4 streaming subscriptions but I watch none of them, I pirate it all anyways. Nobody is at a great loss because I didn't walk over to my TV to watch Netflix in 4k. Netflix is actually saving money by having me torrent it to watch in 4k on my PC. There are extremely large groups of people that feel "entitled" to a usable product in this sense, whether it be on the go watching, quality on their devices, the rampant "bundling" issues getting worse with fragmentation, or other reasons. People don't feel entitled to content for free it's just becoming harder to pay for it via streaming the same as it was after a while on cable. Either way people aren't stealing content, at worst a fraction of the people copying it aren't paying when they would have otherwise.