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I can't imagine the marketing shitshow that would happen if Apple were to allow this. Google already spams Chrome in popup banners on google.com, in popover div

I can't imagine the marketing shitshow that would happen if Apple were to allow this. Google already spams Chrome in popup banners on google.com, in popover divs on gmail, inside security alerts... Basically Google would immediately use all of their properties and muscle to wrest control of iOS. And then why even bother to have more than one platform.

Sargos 7y ago
What does "use all of their properties and muscle to wrest control of iOS" even mean? Apple would still control the OS and how it works. They would just allow for a real web browser that can run web code as well as you can on Windows. That's not hurting Apple at all. Apple should stick to making top notch hardware and software for their phones. Just allow users to run a real web browser as well.
- vasachi 7y ago
  And Google will have full control over the web. As soon as they have majority browser on all platforms, they will ramp up their “innovations” of web platform and leave competition in the dust. And then nobody will be able to stop “standards” that help Google, like substituting URLs on AMP pages for instance.
  - Sargos 7y ago
    That's a problem specific to Chrome. Firefox and Brave do their own thing and lots of people choose to use those browsers instead. The fact is that people don't have that choice when using iOS.
    - vasachi 7y ago
      Lots of people as in about 10% (brave probably less than 1%). As soon as Google is allowed to ship it's own browser engine on iOS, open web is doomed. Google will simply start to ship new “standards”, and web developers will use those standards, because who uses not-chrome anymore?
      - Krasnol 7y ago
        People like you for example? People who are and have been so deep in the Apple box that you probably won't even consider a different browser because Safari is the best. On the other hand: Chrome only became so popular because of their shady propagating of the software. Through freeware installers etc. Something you can prevent very easy on a Apple phone. Also: the market is not so big. Even if they'd "take over" iPhone, it wouldn't make a big difference on the control they already have.
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Sargos 7y ago

What does "use all of their properties and muscle to wrest control of iOS" even mean? Apple would still control the OS and how it works. They would just allow for a real web browser that can run web code as well as you can on Windows. That's not hurting Apple at all. Apple should stick to making top notch hardware and software for their phones. Just allow users to run a real web browser as well.

vasachi 7y ago
And Google will have full control over the web. As soon as they have majority browser on all platforms, they will ramp up their “innovations” of web platform and leave competition in the dust. And then nobody will be able to stop “standards” that help Google, like substituting URLs on AMP pages for instance.
- Sargos 7y ago
  That's a problem specific to Chrome. Firefox and Brave do their own thing and lots of people choose to use those browsers instead. The fact is that people don't have that choice when using iOS.
  - vasachi 7y ago
    Lots of people as in about 10% (brave probably less than 1%). As soon as Google is allowed to ship it's own browser engine on iOS, open web is doomed. Google will simply start to ship new “standards”, and web developers will use those standards, because who uses not-chrome anymore?
    - Krasnol 7y ago
      People like you for example? People who are and have been so deep in the Apple box that you probably won't even consider a different browser because Safari is the best. On the other hand: Chrome only became so popular because of their shady propagating of the software. Through freeware installers etc. Something you can prevent very easy on a Apple phone. Also: the market is not so big. Even if they'd "take over" iPhone, it wouldn't make a big difference on the control they already have.

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