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An instance, but in no way covering the entire picture. One of the reasons why Google Chrome enjoys its monopoly is because Apple does a terrible job with its
by marvindanig 7y ago
An instance, but in no way covering the entire picture.
One of the reasons why Google Chrome enjoys its monopoly is because Apple does a terrible job with its browser Safari. Terrible. I mean it's a train-wreck! Since iOS 10 or probably little later they have done nothing but destroy how the web apis are supposed to function, abusing every single accessibility guideline into something that is at best a line of defense to promote their app store.
I hesitantly moved away from iPhone X to Android Pixel last month.
- scarface74 7y agoOr could it be that the reason Chrome “enjoys” a monopoly is because Apple doesn’t care about “winning” the browser war? Why should it? That was last decades battle. Not even MS cares about the browser enough anymore to invest in its own engine.
- FussyZeus 7y agoThis is the difference between companies trying to sell products and companies trying to sell attention. Apple doesn't benefit at all from people using Safari, because Safari is not a surveillance tool. Therefore, "marketing" Safari is at best, an afterthought. Chrome on the other hand... well, it's Google, one of the largest purveyors of advertising. If you don't think Chrome is watching you, I've got a bridge to sell you.
- hesarenu 7y agoIf they didn't care then we would have alternative rendering engine along with safari. They know that allowing competition is a threat to their business model.
- scarface74 7y agoSince the submission is about MacOS and Electron....
- hesarenu 7y agoAnd are you commenting about just macos and electron? Anyway does not change my answer.
- scarface74 7y agoIt should since MacOS allows alternate browser engines....
- hesarenu 7y agoBut there is no option in iOS. Why are Apple afraid of the competition?
- scarface74 7y agoSo Apple “is afraid of competition” on an app it makes no money off, but allows the Kindle book store, Spotify, plenty of streaming services, Google Maps, two popular Office alternatives to iWork, has built in extensibility points to allow alternative storage providers to iCloud, alternate podcast providers, it basically built a feature into iOS just for alternative password managers, etc. Maybe it’s telling the truth when it says there are security concerns?
- hesarenu 7y agoThose are installed using apple approved app store. Which requires a subscription and payment of 30%. You can give behind security but the truth is they are afraid. If they allow alternate app store or browsers then yes apple is bold. Until then they need to consider their bottomline which requires sometimes bowing to China as well!
- scarface74 7y agoThat’s also not true. You don’t have to go through Apple to run a subscription service. You can have people subscribe/buy content outside of the store and let them use it within the store. Netflix, Spotify, Amazon (Kindle, Audible, etc.), AT&T Now, Sling, LinuxAcademy, and countless others make you pay for subscriptions/content outside of the store.
- millstone 7y agoChrome has 1.5% marketshare on iOS but 70% on desktop. So "Mobile Safari sucks" doesn't seem like a good theory.
- marvindanig 7y agoThat's because even Chrome/Firefox on iOS is forced to use Safari's own rendering engine. Apple hasn't opened up iOS for other vendors to develop browsers ground up independent of Apple's stack. Browser wars aren't over, you're probably drinking kool-aid or being someone's patsy for no reason. Shame. Disappointed to see so many Apple apologists favoring lack of competition on web. Not surprised though, it's what cultists always do.
- matt4077 7y agoFunny how you seem to be tortured by even the idea of Safari, while I (and millions of other people) use it every day and haven't even noticed these supposed atrocities.
- marvindanig 7y ago…do you see the actual funny in your comment? lol