>It isn't about good or evil, it's about the fact that relying on large corporations' profit interests to solve public ills is a fools errand. Why? Are corpor

>It isn't about good or evil, it's about the fact that relying on large corporations' profit interests to solve public ills is a fools errand. Why? Are corporations going to make more from dead consumers than healthy, happy and live ones? Again where is this pervasive attitude that anything "large corporations" do is immediately suspect or presumed evil? It just doesn't make sense. >So, sure, the public might get some good from a corporation's program, but as soon as the profit dries up, the corporation will move on. This isn't a moral thing, it's just a thing profit-driven organizations do. So your saying at some point people won't need health care? >People don't want welfare infrastructure to be contingent on a corporations ability to profit, because in the end it will be a fickle thing. Yes, because uncountable bureaucrats aren't fickle. Since we are talking about healthcare just look at the way the US treats it's veterans in the VA. In Washington DC, look how poorly the Metro system is run compared to other similar systems. I have zero faith in the governmental complexes, in the US at least, to be more effective than properly motivated private industries. If you removed restrictions on selling insurance across state lines, allowed the creation of non-profit insurance corporations similar to credit unions or electrical cooperatives and made some changes to the sue-happy culture (tort reform) the vast majority of the US healthcare "issues" would balance out rather quickly. And far more effectively than layering on more bureaucracy. Even without the above you are still seeing trends like: http://selfpaypatient.com/selfpayhealthcaremarket/ http://selfpaypatient.com/selfpayhealthcaremarket/ But for some reason in the US we seem to think health insurance = health care. That's pretty daffy! Health care is when I get to see a doctor. Running to insurance every time you have a sniffle is what is driving up costs - bureaucratic overhead and complexity (bureaucracies live in any large human powered organizations - not just governments!) in health care is truly bizarre. I watch my mother who has a background in healthcare dissect and destroy bills from hospitals for care given to my family members - often she gets the final bill down over %50 - but how many people have the expertise to do that? We've outsourced all knowledge about our healthcare to others and we are confused when the price and quality goes down? People spend more time researching a good deal on the latest electronic gizmo but have got the first clue about what it should really cost to get an X-ray or other medical procedure done? Who's really at fault here?