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> Professors also increasingly assign homeworks online rather than make students do it on paper. I saw this begin to get popular towards the end of my undergr

by black6 7y ago

> Professors also increasingly assign homeworks online rather than make students do it on paper. I saw this begin to get popular towards the end of my undergraduate studies. I fought against it tooth-and-nail, because all of a sudden students are required to pay a third-party in order to turn in their homework. Why in the fuck do I have to pay a publisher to submit homework to my professor?

m31415 7y ago
> Why in the fuck do I have to pay a publisher to submit homework to my professor? The argument is that it makes it easier for the professors/teachers to grade homework when they're submitted electronically. Of course, that's a stupid argument since part of a professor's job is teaching students, and that inevitably involves grading things. Few professors would be convinced by such an argument though.
- ivan_ah 7y ago
  This is a place where free software and OER (openly-licensed educational resources) could really make a difference. In my experience the online assessment solutions offered by most commercial publishers are horrible, while open source solutions like WeBWorK http://webwork.maa.org/wiki/Get_WeBWorK http://webwork.maa.org/wiki/Get_WeBWorK and MyOpenMath https://www.myopenmath.com/index.php https://www.myopenmath.com/index.php are not bad and have been around for many years. Yes they are not as "shiny" as the commercial offerings, but I'd trust them much more for actual learning/practice/quizzing than the mainstream publisher crap.
- jagged-chisel 7y ago
  > The argument is that it makes it easier for the professors/teachers to grade homework... The entire world is always looking for easier and more efficient methods of doing work. I don't think that's an invalid argument at all. It's the professor's job, yes - and why can't they seek out "better" methods of doing their jobs? (I use quotes to suggest that 'better' is subjective.) Is there an argument against these tools that says they're ineffective? That says they make professors less effective? Maybe, but that's not the same as "...makes it easier ... is a stupid argument..."
jagged-chisel 7y ago
> Why [...] do I have to pay a publisher to submit homework [...]? Indeed this is ridiculous. This should be part of your university tuition, whether they self-host or outsource, students shouldn't be paying beyond tuition to get their homework submitted.

by black6 7y ago

m31415 7y ago

> Why in the fuck do I have to pay a publisher to submit homework to my professor? The argument is that it makes it easier for the professors/teachers to grade homework when they're submitted electronically. Of course, that's a stupid argument since part of a professor's job is teaching students, and that inevitably involves grading things. Few professors would be convinced by such an argument though.

ivan_ah 7y ago
This is a place where free software and OER (openly-licensed educational resources) could really make a difference. In my experience the online assessment solutions offered by most commercial publishers are horrible, while open source solutions like WeBWorK http://webwork.maa.org/wiki/Get_WeBWorK http://webwork.maa.org/wiki/Get_WeBWorK and MyOpenMath https://www.myopenmath.com/index.php https://www.myopenmath.com/index.php are not bad and have been around for many years. Yes they are not as "shiny" as the commercial offerings, but I'd trust them much more for actual learning/practice/quizzing than the mainstream publisher crap.
jagged-chisel 7y ago
> The argument is that it makes it easier for the professors/teachers to grade homework... The entire world is always looking for easier and more efficient methods of doing work. I don't think that's an invalid argument at all. It's the professor's job, yes - and why can't they seek out "better" methods of doing their jobs? (I use quotes to suggest that 'better' is subjective.) Is there an argument against these tools that says they're ineffective? That says they make professors less effective? Maybe, but that's not the same as "...makes it easier ... is a stupid argument..."

jagged-chisel 7y ago

> Why [...] do I have to pay a publisher to submit homework [...]? Indeed this is ridiculous. This should be part of your university tuition, whether they self-host or outsource, students shouldn't be paying beyond tuition to get their homework submitted.