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zozbot234 7y ago
There are plenty of LGBTetc. Republicans who would happily wear such a hat though, if perhaps not at a "LGBTQIA+ community" event. Peter Teal is a particularly high-profile example.
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big_chungus 7y ago
> Unlike race and sexual orientation, your political beliefs are mutable and the result of your choices. We protect religion because it is a fundamental expression of deeply-held values and it is everyone's right to do so. Political persuasion is also a result of those values, and not mutable. You can't "just change" what you believe. > Even moreso, the decision to wear a MAGA hat is a choice. There are many LGBTQIA+ republicans in America, including many of my friends. They don't wear MAGA hats at such events because they're not looking for conflict. "There are many clean-cut black kids in America, including many of my friends. They don't wear hoodies and saggy pants in public because they're not looking for conflict." If you replace a your chosen group with "blacks" and it sounds like something David Duke would write, you may wish to re-consider your phraseology. Edit: the above poster deleted his comment, but I feel the need to replicate the text so mine makes sense. Here is what it said: "I often help my friends organize and operate LGBTQIA+ events at hacker cons. Someone showing up with a MAGA hat is rare, and when it does happen, they're either there to make a statement about free speech (which is fine) or to harass one or more of our attendees (which is unacceptable). So when it does happen, we have to be aware of it, but we don't take any specific actions unless they misbehave. In the wake of white supremacist violence (see second link from my previous comment), not taking note whenever someone with a MAGA hat shows up would be negligent and put targeted people at risk. If you put "allow white supremacist violence against minority groups" on one end of the scale and "avoid any perception of 'political profiling' behavior" on the other, protecting the LGBTQIA+ community that these events serve is going to win every time. Unlike race and sexual orientation, your political beliefs are mutable and the result of your choices. Even moreso, the decision to wear a MAGA hat is a choice. There are many LGBTQIA+ republicans in America, including many of my friends. They don't wear MAGA hats at such events because they're not looking for conflict."
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Proven 7y ago
> Someone showing up with a MAGA hat ... to harass one or more of our attendees (which is unacceptable) How does one "harass" someone by wearing a hat? If that is at all possible then no one can wear a hat because someone might claim harassment (cowboy hats - racists, MAGA hats - extreme right wing, Australian hats - cultural appropriation, etc). If someone annoys the organizer of a private (non-government) event they simply have the right to throw them out if they don't like something about them. That is why it is in fact okay to throw out a guy with a MAGA hat (or a LG group organizer), but statists can't say it because it'd mean it's okay to discriminate. But they like to be able to practice discrimination.

There are plenty of LGBTetc. Republicans who would happily wear such a hat though, if perhaps not at a "LGBTQIA+ community" event. Peter Teal is a particularly high-profile example.

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big_chungus 7y ago

> Unlike race and sexual orientation, your political beliefs are mutable and the result of your choices. We protect religion because it is a fundamental expression of deeply-held values and it is everyone's right to do so. Political persuasion is also a result of those values, and not mutable. You can't "just change" what you believe. > Even moreso, the decision to wear a MAGA hat is a choice. There are many LGBTQIA+ republicans in America, including many of my friends. They don't wear MAGA hats at such events because they're not looking for conflict. "There are many clean-cut black kids in America, including many of my friends. They don't wear hoodies and saggy pants in public because they're not looking for conflict." If you replace a your chosen group with "blacks" and it sounds like something David Duke would write, you may wish to re-consider your phraseology. Edit: the above poster deleted his comment, but I feel the need to replicate the text so mine makes sense. Here is what it said: "I often help my friends organize and operate LGBTQIA+ events at hacker cons. Someone showing up with a MAGA hat is rare, and when it does happen, they're either there to make a statement about free speech (which is fine) or to harass one or more of our attendees (which is unacceptable). So when it does happen, we have to be aware of it, but we don't take any specific actions unless they misbehave. In the wake of white supremacist violence (see second link from my previous comment), not taking note whenever someone with a MAGA hat shows up would be negligent and put targeted people at risk. If you put "allow white supremacist violence against minority groups" on one end of the scale and "avoid any perception of 'political profiling' behavior" on the other, protecting the LGBTQIA+ community that these events serve is going to win every time. Unlike race and sexual orientation, your political beliefs are mutable and the result of your choices. Even moreso, the decision to wear a MAGA hat is a choice. There are many LGBTQIA+ republicans in America, including many of my friends. They don't wear MAGA hats at such events because they're not looking for conflict."

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Proven 7y ago

> Someone showing up with a MAGA hat ... to harass one or more of our attendees (which is unacceptable) How does one "harass" someone by wearing a hat? If that is at all possible then no one can wear a hat because someone might claim harassment (cowboy hats - racists, MAGA hats - extreme right wing, Australian hats - cultural appropriation, etc). If someone annoys the organizer of a private (non-government) event they simply have the right to throw them out if they don't like something about them. That is why it is in fact okay to throw out a guy with a MAGA hat (or a LG group organizer), but statists can't say it because it'd mean it's okay to discriminate. But they like to be able to practice discrimination.