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I wonder if GitLab has reached an inflection point in team-size where the traditional trappings of corporate behaviour will overcome its transparent/open cultur
by joshuakelly 7y ago
I wonder if GitLab has reached an inflection point in team-size where the traditional trappings of corporate behaviour will overcome its transparent/open culture. I wonder what the limit of global and remote really is?
- Jasper_ 7y agoMost startups are quite transparent until they hit a big backlash "inflection point" and realize they outgrew that culture. Even GitHub used to be that way. Radical transparency works for small startups with heavy us-against-them cultures, a mutual agreement on who the enemy is, but when it starts facing tough challenges from the inside is when that starts to disappear.
- AnonGitLabEmpl 7y agoCan confirm, transparency is rapidly degrading internally too.
- omani 7y agoleave the ship before it is too late. I speak from experience.
- jahlove 7y agowhat happens once it's 'too late'?
- omani 7y agoyou will engange yourself in a fight which is not yours. you will waste time on meaningless things, rather than caring about your own stuff which is much more time worthy. in the end you will find yourself in a situation where you will realize that what you thought was your own opinion was much more a copy of what others said and what you've been told. you will give up because it isnt worth the time and you will go back to your own roots and yourself with the words: "well. guess Ive wasted a year or two." time is the most precious thing you have in this life.
- icebraining 7y agoFrankly, I find this comment surprising. "Lack of transparency" describes 80% of the companies I have worked at. If Gitlab losing its radical transparency is a reason to jump ship, to where would one go?
- omani 7y agofunny you are talking about transparency while I refer to companies who care for politics. Im talking about environments where you cant express your free opinion or have to apply to rules because of "politics". back in the days we were just working. we cared about technology. those in control cared for money. which was absolutely fine. today, you have to fit in some weird rules and companies play governments. if you talk negative (by eg expressing your free will) you get redacted. thus has nothing to do with transparency btw. the transparency of gitlab can be good or can be bad. but that is another topic I guess.
- icebraining 7y agoNo, transparency was the topic being discussed! https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21483935 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21483935
- omani 7y agoI think you dont get my point. degrading transparency is just a symptom. a symptom of all this.
- icebraining 7y agoFine. But even if it is, this seems hardly to be a problem exclusive to Gitlab. So what's the point of jumping ship? Won't you just end up in another similar environment?
- harumph 7y agoThe point is to express your dissatisfaction with your employer by denying them access to your skillset. That you'll likely forced into this situation with every employer doesn't mean we should stop trying to express our dissatisfaction. It means we should unionize and take back some modicum of control over our workplaces and lives. But if you're already defeated, that call to arms just falls on deaf ears.