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Looks like Gitlab has censored her spreading the message of her resignation as well, nice.

omani 7y ago
once an environment got infected with "political correctness" and "censorship" in the name of "free speech" that environment becomes toxic. see.
- chipotle_coyote 7y ago
  From what I'm reading here: (1) Gitlab decided they won't hire people living in certain countries (2) This appears to be motivated by the politics of business (3) An exec who spoke up against it tendered her resignation out of principle (4) They're trying to suppress conversation about that Please don't try to abstract "this is all the fault of those SJWs pushing political correctness" from this story. I appreciate from your comments that you think it'd be just great if we could keep politics out of business and lament that the Great Culture War has come for coding, and I get it. The Great Culture War has come for everything, though. Science fiction. Movies. Video games. Furries and Bronies. Here's the thing: this isn't the fault of a small number of loud people making things political that weren't before. All these things were always political -- we just weren't having our noses rubbed in it until relatively recently. Making your lead video game character a woman, or black, is a capital-S Statement because making them a white male is also a capital-S Statement. Trying to increase the number of women in STEM through affirmative action policies of one kind or another is obviously a capital-S Statement, but saying "hey, the fact that there are no women in science is itself proof that women just don't science well" is also a capital-S Statement. When your e-sports champion makes a capital-S Statement about Hong Kong protestors and you suspend him, suspend his camera man, and go into a massive PR defense about how gosh darn non-political you are, you are absolutely making a capital-S Statement. As I observed before, the old Rush lyric about "when you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice" holds true whether we want it to or not. You can passionately argue that politics shouldn't affect software companies and coding jobs, but they do. "You shouldn't try to affect your employer's business practices, you should just leave if you disagree with them" may not be intended to be political, but it will have political effects just as much as the reverse will: either the employer changes business practices to be more in line with what the employees are comfortable with, or the employer ends up with employees who are comfortable with their business practices.
  - michaelt 7y ago
    > Trying to increase the number of women in STEM through affirmative action policies of one kind or another is obviously a capital-S Statement, but saying "hey, the fact that there are no women in science is itself proof that women just don't science well" is also a capital-S Statement. I don't think anyone talking about being "nonpolitical" would disagree that both of those are political acts. Would you argue that someone who has not made a statement or evinced an opinion in either direction is still engaging in a political act?
    - chipotle_coyote 7y ago
      I doubt such a person would be trying to engage in a political act, certainly, but I'm not sure I can make a blanket yes-or-no statement about that. Take Anduril, Palmer Luckey's startup dedicated to building a "virtual border wall." Is someone who works there really being nonpolitical even if they're personally keeping all their opinions to themselves?

once an environment got infected with "political correctness" and "censorship" in the name of "free speech" that environment becomes toxic. see.

chipotle_coyote 7y ago
From what I'm reading here: (1) Gitlab decided they won't hire people living in certain countries (2) This appears to be motivated by the politics of business (3) An exec who spoke up against it tendered her resignation out of principle (4) They're trying to suppress conversation about that Please don't try to abstract "this is all the fault of those SJWs pushing political correctness" from this story. I appreciate from your comments that you think it'd be just great if we could keep politics out of business and lament that the Great Culture War has come for coding, and I get it. The Great Culture War has come for everything, though. Science fiction. Movies. Video games. Furries and Bronies. Here's the thing: this isn't the fault of a small number of loud people making things political that weren't before. All these things were always political -- we just weren't having our noses rubbed in it until relatively recently. Making your lead video game character a woman, or black, is a capital-S Statement because making them a white male is also a capital-S Statement. Trying to increase the number of women in STEM through affirmative action policies of one kind or another is obviously a capital-S Statement, but saying "hey, the fact that there are no women in science is itself proof that women just don't science well" is also a capital-S Statement. When your e-sports champion makes a capital-S Statement about Hong Kong protestors and you suspend him, suspend his camera man, and go into a massive PR defense about how gosh darn non-political you are, you are absolutely making a capital-S Statement. As I observed before, the old Rush lyric about "when you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice" holds true whether we want it to or not. You can passionately argue that politics shouldn't affect software companies and coding jobs, but they do. "You shouldn't try to affect your employer's business practices, you should just leave if you disagree with them" may not be intended to be political, but it will have political effects just as much as the reverse will: either the employer changes business practices to be more in line with what the employees are comfortable with, or the employer ends up with employees who are comfortable with their business practices.
- michaelt 7y ago
  > Trying to increase the number of women in STEM through affirmative action policies of one kind or another is obviously a capital-S Statement, but saying "hey, the fact that there are no women in science is itself proof that women just don't science well" is also a capital-S Statement. I don't think anyone talking about being "nonpolitical" would disagree that both of those are political acts. Would you argue that someone who has not made a statement or evinced an opinion in either direction is still engaging in a political act?
  - chipotle_coyote 7y ago
    I doubt such a person would be trying to engage in a political act, certainly, but I'm not sure I can make a blanket yes-or-no statement about that. Take Anduril, Palmer Luckey's startup dedicated to building a "virtual border wall." Is someone who works there really being nonpolitical even if they're personally keeping all their opinions to themselves?