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I think Ubuntu is great, and making iPhone apps under OS X isn't changing my mind. Renaming a file on OS X requires you to single-click the file name, wait a s

by larrik 16y ago

I think Ubuntu is great, and making iPhone apps under OS X isn't changing my mind. Renaming a file on OS X requires you to single-click the file name, wait a second, and then change the file name. If you have to rename a bunch of files, that's a ton slower than Ubuntu or Windows. (If anyone is going to suggest dropping to the command line, I'd answer that's not a very OS X solution) OS X uses THREE keyboard modifiers? REALLY? And they aren't even named? I have to actually look at my keyboard and think about what it what. Nevermind if I'm using a Windows keyboard on a Mac Mini or something... Right clicking is inconsistent, and the context menus rarely have what I want (like, oh, renaming a file?). This is probably why they have 3 keyboard modifier buttons. Safari is not nearly as good as Chrome is. Multiple desktops is trivial on Ubuntu. In fact, it's preinstalled that way. (There's lots more stuff that irritates me, but I'm actually on Ubuntu right now, and it has allowed me to forget such nonsense) I'm not saying Ubuntu doesn't have issues, but given that Ubuntu is free (in both senses) and runs on hardware I can select piece by piece and get a much better machine for a fraction of the cost... I seriously doubt I will ever have more than a single development Mac.

jason42 16y ago
> Renaming a file on OS X requires you to single-click the file name, wait a second, and then change the file name There's at least one other way to do it - single-click on the file, press enter, then type the new name.
- loewenskind 16y ago
  and that's great because, unlike windows, it just changes the file name. Not the extension unless you actually move to the extension yourself.
stepherm 16y ago
You can edit a file name by tapping return.
Hovertruck 16y ago
Not really an answer to your points, but FWIW to rename a file in Finder all you have to do is press enter.
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masklinn 16y ago
> Renaming a file on OS X requires you to single-click the file name, wait a second, and then change the file name. If you have to rename a bunch of files, that's a ton slower than Ubuntu or Windows. (If anyone is going to suggest dropping to the command line, I'd answer that's not a very OS X solution) Select file, hit return, rename, hit return. Go to next file. Are you going to say Windows's F2 dance is faster? > OS X uses THREE keyboard modifiers? REALLY? No, 4. Is that supposed to be news? Windows also uses 4 keyboard modifiers, and Gnome uses at least 3. > And they aren't even named? Shift, control, option (alt), command. > and the context menus rarely have what I want (like, oh, renaming a file?). Ever considered opening the Get Info dialog? No? Thought not. > Multiple desktops is trivial on Ubuntu. In fact, it's preinstalled that way. So is it on OSX. I'd even say it's more trivial, as you can switch to an application living on a different desktop, it will just switch to the right desktop. Not so in Ubuntu.
- podperson 16y ago
  Indeed, the Mac has shift, control, option, command (and fn on laptops). Way back when the Mac had command but not control, and Windows had control but not "windows". IIRC Apple added control long before Windows added "windows" so there's never been a deficit on the Mac side.
- larrik 16y ago
  1) I didn't know you can rename a file like that. I assumed that pressing Return would, you know, open the file. How do you open the file from the keyboard, then? I also don't know what the Windows F2 dance is. I can right click and choose Rename from the context menu, or right click and press M, or press the stupid context key on the keyboard and then press M. 2) I didn't count Shift. Oh well. Windows doesn't use that Windows key in the same way. There are no context menus with that key as it's listed shortcut, and I've never seen an application that uses it. 3) Control and command are WAY too similar, especially since historically the F keys are also called "command keys". Option/Alt has two names? And what is what that weird symbol that represents it in the context menus? 4) Get Info? Sure. It's a Properties window. Wow. 5) I use AWN on Ubuntu, so I didn't realize Gnome doesn't take you to the right desktop when you click on a window in their task manager. In fact, I still only have your word for it. Besides, I didn't say OS X was bad, I just said it wasn't good enough to justify me switching to it for triple the cost.
neutronicus 16y ago
The three keyboard modifier keys are awesome. Significantly improves my emacs usage experience.
veidr 16y ago
The Finder sucks, but it is fully keyboard-navigable, and you can rename files and do other things quickly via the keyboard. Just select the file that you want to rename and hit the Return key. Regarding "not a very OS X solution", I would just note that a "power user" is going to be on the command line all day long in Mac OS X, like any UNIX. Terminal.app is very capable, iTerm is there if you prefer, and many more technical users on the Mac will be using more powerful Finder replacements like PathFinder (that have built-in slide-out terminal panes), or using the excellent D-Term, which pops up a HUD-style one-shot command line in the context of wherever you happen to be in the GUI.

by larrik 16y ago

jason42 16y ago

> Renaming a file on OS X requires you to single-click the file name, wait a second, and then change the file name There's at least one other way to do it - single-click on the file, press enter, then type the new name.

loewenskind 16y ago
and that's great because, unlike windows, it just changes the file name. Not the extension unless you actually move to the extension yourself.

stepherm 16y ago

You can edit a file name by tapping return.

Hovertruck 16y ago

Not really an answer to your points, but FWIW to rename a file in Finder all you have to do is press enter.

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masklinn 16y ago

> Renaming a file on OS X requires you to single-click the file name, wait a second, and then change the file name. If you have to rename a bunch of files, that's a ton slower than Ubuntu or Windows. (If anyone is going to suggest dropping to the command line, I'd answer that's not a very OS X solution) Select file, hit return, rename, hit return. Go to next file. Are you going to say Windows's F2 dance is faster? > OS X uses THREE keyboard modifiers? REALLY? No, 4. Is that supposed to be news? Windows also uses 4 keyboard modifiers, and Gnome uses at least 3. > And they aren't even named? Shift, control, option (alt), command. > and the context menus rarely have what I want (like, oh, renaming a file?). Ever considered opening the Get Info dialog? No? Thought not. > Multiple desktops is trivial on Ubuntu. In fact, it's preinstalled that way. So is it on OSX. I'd even say it's more trivial, as you can switch to an application living on a different desktop, it will just switch to the right desktop. Not so in Ubuntu.

podperson 16y ago
Indeed, the Mac has shift, control, option, command (and fn on laptops). Way back when the Mac had command but not control, and Windows had control but not "windows". IIRC Apple added control long before Windows added "windows" so there's never been a deficit on the Mac side.
larrik 16y ago
1) I didn't know you can rename a file like that. I assumed that pressing Return would, you know, open the file. How do you open the file from the keyboard, then? I also don't know what the Windows F2 dance is. I can right click and choose Rename from the context menu, or right click and press M, or press the stupid context key on the keyboard and then press M. 2) I didn't count Shift. Oh well. Windows doesn't use that Windows key in the same way. There are no context menus with that key as it's listed shortcut, and I've never seen an application that uses it. 3) Control and command are WAY too similar, especially since historically the F keys are also called "command keys". Option/Alt has two names? And what is what that weird symbol that represents it in the context menus? 4) Get Info? Sure. It's a Properties window. Wow. 5) I use AWN on Ubuntu, so I didn't realize Gnome doesn't take you to the right desktop when you click on a window in their task manager. In fact, I still only have your word for it. Besides, I didn't say OS X was bad, I just said it wasn't good enough to justify me switching to it for triple the cost.

neutronicus 16y ago

The three keyboard modifier keys are awesome. Significantly improves my emacs usage experience.

veidr 16y ago

The Finder sucks, but it is fully keyboard-navigable, and you can rename files and do other things quickly via the keyboard. Just select the file that you want to rename and hit the Return key. Regarding "not a very OS X solution", I would just note that a "power user" is going to be on the command line all day long in Mac OS X, like any UNIX. Terminal.app is very capable, iTerm is there if you prefer, and many more technical users on the Mac will be using more powerful Finder replacements like PathFinder (that have built-in slide-out terminal panes), or using the excellent D-Term, which pops up a HUD-style one-shot command line in the context of wherever you happen to be in the GUI.