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'We have demonstrated that predictive policing of drug crimes results in increasingly disproportionate policing of historically over‐policed communities. Over‐p

'We have demonstrated that predictive policing of drug crimes results in increasingly disproportionate policing of historically over‐policed communities. Over‐policing imposes real costs on these communities. Increased police scrutiny and surveillance have been linked to worsening mental and physical health;and, in the extreme, additional police contact will create additional opportunities for police violence in over‐policed areas.' https://rss.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1740-9713.2016.00960.x https://rss.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1740-...

AlexTWithBeard 7y ago
Increased police scrutiny and surveillance have been linked to worsening mental and physical health I find it surprising. I would be happy to see more police in where I live. In my layman's mind police, pretty much by definition, prevents and deters crime. They may not be perfect in that, but in most cases they're fine.
- martingoodson 7y ago
  They are specifically talking about 'over-policing', which is disproportionate focus of police activity on some sectors of the community.
- mschuster91 7y ago
  > In my layman's mind police, pretty much by definition, prevents and deters crime. That would be the case if police were adequately trained and equipped. However US police forces on average (!!) are trained only for not even 9 months (per https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/police-training-killings-usa-nordic/ https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/police-training-killings-u...), which means that there are likely cases in which only weeks of training were given. German police, in contrast, train for two and a half / three years (per https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polizeiausbildung_in_Deutschland https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polizeiausbildung_in_Deutschla...). That, combined with a lack of hiring standards (e.g. https://www.portlandmercury.com/blogtown/2019/06/19/26671582/portland-police-lower-officer-hiring-standards-to-address-poor-recruitment-rates https://www.portlandmercury.com/blogtown/2019/06/19/26671582...) leads to the perception of police being nothing more than paid thugs with a uniform. The massive availability of guns as well as former military equipment in police hands doesn't help either, quite to the contrary. When I have an easy sledgehammer (=a tank and a gun), I'll shoot first and ask questions later. When it comes to "overpolicing", you also have to note that it's way easier to arrest someone dealing/smoking cannabis on the street (mostly poor PoC) compared to arresting a rich white banker who is snorting cocaine on his desk.
- papln 7y ago
  I'm going to speculate that you don't live in a poor neighborhood. https://www.joincampaignzero.org/brokenwindows https://www.joincampaignzero.org/brokenwindows https://www.theroot.com/tag/over-policing https://www.theroot.com/tag/over-policing

AlexTWithBeard 7y ago

Increased police scrutiny and surveillance have been linked to worsening mental and physical health I find it surprising. I would be happy to see more police in where I live. In my layman's mind police, pretty much by definition, prevents and deters crime. They may not be perfect in that, but in most cases they're fine.

martingoodson 7y ago
They are specifically talking about 'over-policing', which is disproportionate focus of police activity on some sectors of the community.
mschuster91 7y ago
> In my layman's mind police, pretty much by definition, prevents and deters crime. That would be the case if police were adequately trained and equipped. However US police forces on average (!!) are trained only for not even 9 months (per https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/police-training-killings-usa-nordic/ https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/police-training-killings-u...), which means that there are likely cases in which only weeks of training were given. German police, in contrast, train for two and a half / three years (per https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polizeiausbildung_in_Deutschland https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polizeiausbildung_in_Deutschla...). That, combined with a lack of hiring standards (e.g. https://www.portlandmercury.com/blogtown/2019/06/19/26671582/portland-police-lower-officer-hiring-standards-to-address-poor-recruitment-rates https://www.portlandmercury.com/blogtown/2019/06/19/26671582...) leads to the perception of police being nothing more than paid thugs with a uniform. The massive availability of guns as well as former military equipment in police hands doesn't help either, quite to the contrary. When I have an easy sledgehammer (=a tank and a gun), I'll shoot first and ask questions later. When it comes to "overpolicing", you also have to note that it's way easier to arrest someone dealing/smoking cannabis on the street (mostly poor PoC) compared to arresting a rich white banker who is snorting cocaine on his desk.
papln 7y ago
I'm going to speculate that you don't live in a poor neighborhood. https://www.joincampaignzero.org/brokenwindows https://www.joincampaignzero.org/brokenwindows https://www.theroot.com/tag/over-policing https://www.theroot.com/tag/over-policing