Recently I have been looking more carefully at language, and I have found that people say one thing but mean another. With "conversion", a verb, I don't see ho

Recently I have been looking more carefully at language, and I have found that people say one thing but mean another. With "conversion", a verb, I don't see how "making students of Jesus" (and I wonder what "making" here means) is the same as "everyone must convert themselves to children". Don't these seem to be two completely different ideas? Is there some verse that more clearly states "convert people" with the same meaning, intent and using similar language?