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Really, 99 weeks is just too much. If you cannot get rehired in a year or so, do you really think you will get hired at all? If you were good enough or lucky en

by rick_2047 16y ago

Really, 99 weeks is just too much. If you cannot get rehired in a year or so, do you really think you will get hired at all? If you were good enough or lucky enough you would get a job in 1 year or else you seriously need to rethink your "career"

locopati 16y ago
That's pretty easy to say. What happens when jobs are not available? Or when people cannot relocate to where jobs are? Do we cast off a large body of people to sink on their own? And when they are sinking, will that be good for society?
- rick_2047 16y ago
  I live in a country with no such guarantee and people have managed to live.
  - jarek 16y ago
    And there's no social unrest and the well-off aren't barricading themselves in gated neighbourhoods.
  - jhamburger 16y ago
    Which country, out of curiousity? I'm only asking because I'm not aware of any countries without some form of social safety net where life isn't absolutely miserable for the underclass.
    - philiphodgen 16y ago
      Sherlock says: India. 1. Look at HN profile. See manky website listed there: lifeasparesh.co.cc. 2. That website doesn't load for me. 3. Go to Mr. Google and type in lifeasparesh. 4. Find blog.lifesasparesh.in. 5. Notice that in the search results the owner of this site reports a HN username of rick_2047. Economic/political analysis may now continue based on this piece of information. <detour> (And yeah I'm receptive to ideas the original article. "99 weeks of xbox" is hyperbole but after pruning away the hyperbole from the article -- and the opposing comments in this thread -- there are some hard questions remaining. It's worth talking about these questions in an adult manner while attempting to avoiding Godwin-lite debate tactics. Which, I confess, I frequently find myself using because it's fun to go "Ha! Score!) </detour>
ebiester 16y ago
Here's the problem. So, you've gone a year looking for that marketing job at a high level. Then, you start looking at mid-level. You have more experience, but people think you're "overqualified." So, you even try low-level, and you don't even get interviews. Then, you start on jobs that use similar skills. But then, you're competing against people who have the same exact experience. You try call centers, but most of them won't take you if you haven't had a job in 6 months. If you're lucky, eventually somebody takes a chance on you. Sometimes, that means that the labor supply has to tighten some. Oh, and there's a perverse disincentive to start a business - if you do, you lose all of your benefits.

locopati 16y ago

That's pretty easy to say. What happens when jobs are not available? Or when people cannot relocate to where jobs are? Do we cast off a large body of people to sink on their own? And when they are sinking, will that be good for society?

rick_2047 16y ago
I live in a country with no such guarantee and people have managed to live.
- jarek 16y ago
  And there's no social unrest and the well-off aren't barricading themselves in gated neighbourhoods.
- jhamburger 16y ago
  Which country, out of curiousity? I'm only asking because I'm not aware of any countries without some form of social safety net where life isn't absolutely miserable for the underclass.
  - philiphodgen 16y ago
    Sherlock says: India. 1. Look at HN profile. See manky website listed there: lifeasparesh.co.cc. 2. That website doesn't load for me. 3. Go to Mr. Google and type in lifeasparesh. 4. Find blog.lifesasparesh.in. 5. Notice that in the search results the owner of this site reports a HN username of rick_2047. Economic/political analysis may now continue based on this piece of information. <detour> (And yeah I'm receptive to ideas the original article. "99 weeks of xbox" is hyperbole but after pruning away the hyperbole from the article -- and the opposing comments in this thread -- there are some hard questions remaining. It's worth talking about these questions in an adult manner while attempting to avoiding Godwin-lite debate tactics. Which, I confess, I frequently find myself using because it's fun to go "Ha! Score!) </detour>

ebiester 16y ago

Here's the problem. So, you've gone a year looking for that marketing job at a high level. Then, you start looking at mid-level. You have more experience, but people think you're "overqualified." So, you even try low-level, and you don't even get interviews. Then, you start on jobs that use similar skills. But then, you're competing against people who have the same exact experience. You try call centers, but most of them won't take you if you haven't had a job in 6 months. If you're lucky, eventually somebody takes a chance on you. Sometimes, that means that the labor supply has to tighten some. Oh, and there's a perverse disincentive to start a business - if you do, you lose all of your benefits.