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This isn't a situation for partisan tribalism. Everyone with connections to Epstein should be investigated by the FBI. Also, >Don't forget shooting firearms

by cwkoss 7y ago

This isn't a situation for partisan tribalism. Everyone with connections to Epstein should be investigated by the FBI. Also, >Don't forget shooting firearms in pizza parlors You mean the guy who fired a single shot to open a locked closet door because he thought children were trapped behind it . That was idiotic, but not an act of terrorism or motivated violence.

jacquesm 7y ago
If firing a gun at anything, especially a chunk of metal, in a Pizza Parlor with people in it isn't motivated violence then what is? Does the word 'ricochet' mean anything to you?
- cwkoss 7y ago
  I think intentionally firing a gun at someone with the intent to kill or injure is definitely morally distinct from irresponsible tool usage. Using a gun to open a lock is dumb and irresponsible, but it is not violent.
  - Usernamed000 7y ago
    > irresponsible tool usage Your continued attempts to frame Pizzagate as some bipartisan magnanimous effort by non-violent gunmen is just bizarre. A firearm is not a tool for unlocking doors, you are attempting to claim he brought it there to unlock doors which is an invention of narrative. >but it is not violent Oh yea those classic peaceful gunmen, driven by conspiracy theories propagated by someone directly involved in an Epstein court case. Siding against the accuser, working in conjunction with Epstein's ex-lawyer. Shooting expressly violent weapons in public venues they stormed. Everyone loves a mob of armed delusional fanatics seeking Hillary Clinton's child sex dungeons in places named by Trump's defenders. Totally not a deflection away from the testimony of the accusers, one groomed from Trump's Mar-a-Lago. edit: If you'd like I could transcribe the court documents where the gunman stated his intentions with the firearms. Or the description of how firearms work in the court documents detailing their explosive nature of normal function. But then I'd insist on asking why pursue this particular angle of attack on this topic?
    - cwkoss 7y ago
      Kind of amazing that you created an account just to misconstrue my replies and try to cast my words as partisan when I've said nothing to that effect.
      - Usernamed000 7y ago
        Yea good luck trying to use my account as a means to deflect away from your characterization of Pizzagate, or your fabrication of the intent of the gunman. Sorry, I mean non-violent locksmith.
  - jacquesm 7y ago
    Are you seriously trying to argue that he brought the gun because he couldn't bring a pass-key instead? I'm of the opinion that it didn't get worse because there wasn't anything behind that door but god forbid if there had been people there and he could have easily maimed or killed someone just by firing it in the first place. Gullible violent idiots should not have access to guns.
    - cwkoss 7y ago
      I'm not saying the shooter was right or justified: what he did was dangerous, irresponsible, and reprehensible. However, I just think that it is misleading to say "shooting firearms in a pizza parlor" because that makes it sound like he was spraying a crowd of people with bullets with reckless disregard for life when he fired only a single shot at an inanimate object. It does not appear the shooter attempted to hurt anyone, the whole thing was the misguided attempt of a likely-mentally-ill person to 'protect the children'
      - jacquesm 7y ago
        Firing a gun is something that you should not do lightly, especially not in public places. These vigilante morons who are whipped up by their media savvy puppetmasters are dangerous. Firing a gun should be enough evidence for that, regardless of what it was fired at. What John Wayne does in the movies could have ended up very badly IRL. So yes, that was with reckless disregards for life, you have no way of knowing where that bullet you fired will end up. Signed, Yours Truly, Deadeye Dick. Oh, and that's besides the fact that mentally ill people - and most of the general public - should not have access to guns in the first place.

by cwkoss 7y ago

jacquesm 7y ago

If firing a gun at anything, especially a chunk of metal, in a Pizza Parlor with people in it isn't motivated violence then what is? Does the word 'ricochet' mean anything to you?

cwkoss 7y ago
I think intentionally firing a gun at someone with the intent to kill or injure is definitely morally distinct from irresponsible tool usage. Using a gun to open a lock is dumb and irresponsible, but it is not violent.
- Usernamed000 7y ago
  > irresponsible tool usage Your continued attempts to frame Pizzagate as some bipartisan magnanimous effort by non-violent gunmen is just bizarre. A firearm is not a tool for unlocking doors, you are attempting to claim he brought it there to unlock doors which is an invention of narrative. >but it is not violent Oh yea those classic peaceful gunmen, driven by conspiracy theories propagated by someone directly involved in an Epstein court case. Siding against the accuser, working in conjunction with Epstein's ex-lawyer. Shooting expressly violent weapons in public venues they stormed. Everyone loves a mob of armed delusional fanatics seeking Hillary Clinton's child sex dungeons in places named by Trump's defenders. Totally not a deflection away from the testimony of the accusers, one groomed from Trump's Mar-a-Lago. edit: If you'd like I could transcribe the court documents where the gunman stated his intentions with the firearms. Or the description of how firearms work in the court documents detailing their explosive nature of normal function. But then I'd insist on asking why pursue this particular angle of attack on this topic?
  - cwkoss 7y ago
    Kind of amazing that you created an account just to misconstrue my replies and try to cast my words as partisan when I've said nothing to that effect.
    - Usernamed000 7y ago
      Yea good luck trying to use my account as a means to deflect away from your characterization of Pizzagate, or your fabrication of the intent of the gunman. Sorry, I mean non-violent locksmith.
- jacquesm 7y ago
  Are you seriously trying to argue that he brought the gun because he couldn't bring a pass-key instead? I'm of the opinion that it didn't get worse because there wasn't anything behind that door but god forbid if there had been people there and he could have easily maimed or killed someone just by firing it in the first place. Gullible violent idiots should not have access to guns.
  - cwkoss 7y ago
    I'm not saying the shooter was right or justified: what he did was dangerous, irresponsible, and reprehensible. However, I just think that it is misleading to say "shooting firearms in a pizza parlor" because that makes it sound like he was spraying a crowd of people with bullets with reckless disregard for life when he fired only a single shot at an inanimate object. It does not appear the shooter attempted to hurt anyone, the whole thing was the misguided attempt of a likely-mentally-ill person to 'protect the children'
    - jacquesm 7y ago
      Firing a gun is something that you should not do lightly, especially not in public places. These vigilante morons who are whipped up by their media savvy puppetmasters are dangerous. Firing a gun should be enough evidence for that, regardless of what it was fired at. What John Wayne does in the movies could have ended up very badly IRL. So yes, that was with reckless disregards for life, you have no way of knowing where that bullet you fired will end up. Signed, Yours Truly, Deadeye Dick. Oh, and that's besides the fact that mentally ill people - and most of the general public - should not have access to guns in the first place.