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Looks less menacing than it sounds. https://mobile.twitter.com/mceleney/status/1192519440518107141 https://mobile.twitter.com/mceleney/status/11925194405181071.

Looks less menacing than it sounds. https://mobile.twitter.com/mceleney/status/1192519440518107141 https://mobile.twitter.com/mceleney/status/11925194405181071...

BoorishBears 7y ago
The tone of the people who replied... Gfycat should just delete the data and be done with it. Trying to play the helpless victim while slinging that ridiculous "holier-than-thou" "for the public good" attitude.. for trying to "preserve" a bunch of images that were probably never meant to be shared with more than one person. I'm reading more of the tweets, some cringey vague threats about Verge wanting a story. I'm guessing the reason that doesn't go anywhere is because Verge wasn't impressed once they had the whole story that the Archive Team was taking down someone's API with bulk downloads of unwanted images. Followed by some ham-fisted insult about deepfakes? Thank god I don't have to work or even interact with people like this on a daily basis.
- scrollaway 7y ago
  That's Jason Scott for you. He does great work, but he's an awful, awful person to work or generally communicate with.
  - toomuchtodo 7y ago
    I can't fault Jason Scott for his attitude considering how passionate he is about his work. With enough age and time in tech, your tolerance for bullshit of any kind rapidly falls to zero. Agree he does great work. It's ArchiveTeam's fault a company that took $10 million in VC funding to provide GIFs to the internet couldn't properly implement a publicly exposed API (including rate limits)? Hardly. Gfycat should be appreciative that there will be a Wayback archive of the site after it goes bust (who pays for GIFs?). EDIT: Disclaimer: ArchiveTeam participant, full supporter of their activities to preserve digital culture.
    - BoorishBears 7y ago
      >your tolerance for bullshit of any kind rapidly falls to zero I've seen this sentiment and I don't get it. I've worked with older people in tech who had plenty of tolerance for "bullshit" like showing a modicum of cordiality in a situation like this, on a public forum especially. To me this mentality just sounds like... inverse ageism? I mean, most people I know would not want to work with someone who acts like this. The brilliant but abrasive people are usually the ones we hear about the most, but are plenty of brilliant people who aren't proudly proclaiming "Problematic Guy" in their twitter profile. So if you convince yourself it's ok to act like this because you've just dealt with so much "bullshit" over the course of your career, and you've been doing it so long, are you just saying you don't want to be hired because of how old you are (or how long you've been in tech) unless people are ok with a toxic work partner, in a round about way? It sure sounds like that to me. I'd rather work with someone 8 tenths brilliant and not problematic, than someone 10 tenths brilliant and problematic, and in my experience, the team with the 8 tenths guy will be a more fulfilling environment to contribute to.
      - toomuchtodo 7y ago
        You might get it eventually, you might not. Everyone's life experiences will be different. It's not a problem if you work someplace where they care about the skill more than your bedside manner (which is a lot of places!). If you're brilliant and abrasive, you're still brilliant. If you're kind but not so skilled, you're still not so skilled. Enough employers to go around for those who want to work with cordial people, brilliant people, or cordial brilliant people (if you can find them). People with dark histories of abusing their coworkers get hired into positions of power because they deliver results (not good of course). It should be no surprise that someone who is only abrasive will always be able to find work if they are a domain expert. If you generate revenue (or in a non-revenue role, are a subject matter expert), and can pass a background check (and sometimes even not!), someone will hire you. Disclaimer: None of this comment is about an individual, only workplace logistics in general and my opinion on the topic. If a mod ventures into the thread, consider detaching this entire subthread as it's off topic.
        7y ago
  - mattl 7y ago
    I've never had a bad experience with him and he seems to have time for anyone who needs his help.
  - SaissonJAye 7y ago
    I've only had good experiences with Jason Scott, so I'm not sure what you got into there. That's my opinion.
Gelob 7y ago
What kind of letter was that anyways? It was not written well.

Looks less menacing than it sounds. https://mobile.twitter.com/mceleney/status/1192519440518107141 https://mobile.twitter.com/mceleney/status/11925194405181071...

BoorishBears 7y ago

The tone of the people who replied... Gfycat should just delete the data and be done with it. Trying to play the helpless victim while slinging that ridiculous "holier-than-thou" "for the public good" attitude.. for trying to "preserve" a bunch of images that were probably never meant to be shared with more than one person. I'm reading more of the tweets, some cringey vague threats about Verge wanting a story. I'm guessing the reason that doesn't go anywhere is because Verge wasn't impressed once they had the whole story that the Archive Team was taking down someone's API with bulk downloads of unwanted images. Followed by some ham-fisted insult about deepfakes? Thank god I don't have to work or even interact with people like this on a daily basis.

scrollaway 7y ago
That's Jason Scott for you. He does great work, but he's an awful, awful person to work or generally communicate with.
- toomuchtodo 7y ago
  I can't fault Jason Scott for his attitude considering how passionate he is about his work. With enough age and time in tech, your tolerance for bullshit of any kind rapidly falls to zero. Agree he does great work. It's ArchiveTeam's fault a company that took $10 million in VC funding to provide GIFs to the internet couldn't properly implement a publicly exposed API (including rate limits)? Hardly. Gfycat should be appreciative that there will be a Wayback archive of the site after it goes bust (who pays for GIFs?). EDIT: Disclaimer: ArchiveTeam participant, full supporter of their activities to preserve digital culture.
  - BoorishBears 7y ago
    >your tolerance for bullshit of any kind rapidly falls to zero I've seen this sentiment and I don't get it. I've worked with older people in tech who had plenty of tolerance for "bullshit" like showing a modicum of cordiality in a situation like this, on a public forum especially. To me this mentality just sounds like... inverse ageism? I mean, most people I know would not want to work with someone who acts like this. The brilliant but abrasive people are usually the ones we hear about the most, but are plenty of brilliant people who aren't proudly proclaiming "Problematic Guy" in their twitter profile. So if you convince yourself it's ok to act like this because you've just dealt with so much "bullshit" over the course of your career, and you've been doing it so long, are you just saying you don't want to be hired because of how old you are (or how long you've been in tech) unless people are ok with a toxic work partner, in a round about way? It sure sounds like that to me. I'd rather work with someone 8 tenths brilliant and not problematic, than someone 10 tenths brilliant and problematic, and in my experience, the team with the 8 tenths guy will be a more fulfilling environment to contribute to.
    - toomuchtodo 7y ago
      You might get it eventually, you might not. Everyone's life experiences will be different. It's not a problem if you work someplace where they care about the skill more than your bedside manner (which is a lot of places!). If you're brilliant and abrasive, you're still brilliant. If you're kind but not so skilled, you're still not so skilled. Enough employers to go around for those who want to work with cordial people, brilliant people, or cordial brilliant people (if you can find them). People with dark histories of abusing their coworkers get hired into positions of power because they deliver results (not good of course). It should be no surprise that someone who is only abrasive will always be able to find work if they are a domain expert. If you generate revenue (or in a non-revenue role, are a subject matter expert), and can pass a background check (and sometimes even not!), someone will hire you. Disclaimer: None of this comment is about an individual, only workplace logistics in general and my opinion on the topic. If a mod ventures into the thread, consider detaching this entire subthread as it's off topic.
      - 7y ago
- mattl 7y ago
  I've never had a bad experience with him and he seems to have time for anyone who needs his help.
- SaissonJAye 7y ago
  I've only had good experiences with Jason Scott, so I'm not sure what you got into there. That's my opinion.

Gelob 7y ago

What kind of letter was that anyways? It was not written well.