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"What kind of public university is only manageable via driving?" If you wanted groceries there was a 1/week bus that did it, and if you wanted to be exposed to

"What kind of public university is only manageable via driving?" If you wanted groceries there was a 1/week bus that did it, and if you wanted to be exposed to anywhere off campus you'd have to drive. There were often arts, research, etc. events that would require driving. "I really have to wonder why these poor students went there" Because they could afford it(the tuition was low comparatively) and it's relatively well known with a good reputation. "That one thing alone probably would have made all the difference for your friends who dropped out due to finances." It wouldn't have, sorry, we were a super afforable school at around ~15k/semester. At that point owning a car is chump change.

vonmoltke 7y ago
> It wouldn't have, sorry, we were a super afforable school at around ~15k/semester. What state has universities charging that much for residents?
- SolaceQuantum 7y ago
  Many of them. It's the tuition + fees/books/supplies + mandatory dorms/meal plans, and if not dorms/meal plans then rent/food/car/etc.
  - vonmoltke 7y ago
    > tuition + fees/books/supplies This is normally what I consider the cost of a university. > mandatory dorms/meal plans, and if not dorms/meal plans then rent/food/car/etc That's not fair to lump in, because all of that needs to be paid for just to exist. While I don't like the trend towards mandatory on-campus housing and meals, you still have to live somewhere and eat something, so I don't really think tacking the entire cost of those into the cost of a university is fair.
    - magduf 7y ago
      I don't think it's unfair at all. Not everyone needs a place to live: some college students just live at home for free. I had some friends like that when I went to a major state university; they just commuted from home. They certainly didn't need to pay for a dorm or a meal plan because they lived off-campus, and luckily that school had no requirement to do so. Personally, I think they missed out on some of the "college experience" doing so, but still, I can't deny it was a lot cheaper for them. On top of that, if living in a dorm and eating crappy cafeteria food is much more expensive than living off-campus in an apartment and getting your own food from a grocery store, I think it's fair to include those mandatory costs into the "cost of a university".

vonmoltke 7y ago

> It wouldn't have, sorry, we were a super afforable school at around ~15k/semester. What state has universities charging that much for residents?

SolaceQuantum 7y ago
Many of them. It's the tuition + fees/books/supplies + mandatory dorms/meal plans, and if not dorms/meal plans then rent/food/car/etc.
- vonmoltke 7y ago
  > tuition + fees/books/supplies This is normally what I consider the cost of a university. > mandatory dorms/meal plans, and if not dorms/meal plans then rent/food/car/etc That's not fair to lump in, because all of that needs to be paid for just to exist. While I don't like the trend towards mandatory on-campus housing and meals, you still have to live somewhere and eat something, so I don't really think tacking the entire cost of those into the cost of a university is fair.
  - magduf 7y ago
    I don't think it's unfair at all. Not everyone needs a place to live: some college students just live at home for free. I had some friends like that when I went to a major state university; they just commuted from home. They certainly didn't need to pay for a dorm or a meal plan because they lived off-campus, and luckily that school had no requirement to do so. Personally, I think they missed out on some of the "college experience" doing so, but still, I can't deny it was a lot cheaper for them. On top of that, if living in a dorm and eating crappy cafeteria food is much more expensive than living off-campus in an apartment and getting your own food from a grocery store, I think it's fair to include those mandatory costs into the "cost of a university".