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That's a strange way to look at it since the corporations have a much better ratio of wins to losses and have to manage profitability. Regardless, the issue is

That's a strange way to look at it since the corporations have a much better ratio of wins to losses and have to manage profitability. Regardless, the issue is government spending, not collection. I don't see how aggregating even more money into a few politicians is somehow going to solve anything, or what difference a few billion will make when the country spends trillions.

istjohn 7y ago
It's simple. Fund healthcare, education, earned income tax credits, student loan forgiveness, early childhood education, green energy, carbon sequestration. Fund the IRS so the tax code is enforced for the wealthy as vigorously as it is enforced for the poor. It's not hard to find huge societal wins that can be had with increased spending.
- manigandham 7y ago
  If the answer is as simple as spend more then we wouldn't have any problems since we already spend more (than we have) every year. Pour more billions into a black hole does nothing. Programs are broken because of how money is spent, not because of how much.
  - mcphage 7y ago
    > If the answer is as simple as spend more then we wouldn't have any problems since we already spend more (than we have) every year. Pour more billions into a black hole does nothing. So... you think that Warren is trying to add funding like a wealth tax, but... has no idea what to spend the money on?
    - manigandham 7y ago
      That's a non-sequitur. I said the government is bad at allocating and using funds. Do you disagree with that statement? How does poorly spending trillions get fixed by spending a few more billion? That's the problem. Solve that first, then move on to taxes.
mcphage 7y ago
> since the corporations have a much better ration of wins to losses Citation very much needed. When you look at all of the things that our government successfully runs, and all of the thing that corporations successfully run, I'll stick with governments every time.
- foogazi 7y ago
  What are you talking about? everything in this country is privately made Every storefront, vehicle, food item, article of clothing, the device you are reading this on, is all made and funded privately Government is a net cost on society
  - mcphage 7y ago
    > What are you talking about? everything in this country is privately made > Every storefront, vehicle, food item, article of clothing, the device you are reading this on, is all made and funded privately Uh... dude, I got some news for you, about the country you live in.
- manigandham 7y ago
  The govt spends more money than it has, and forcefully collects money. Corporations need to make money to stay alive, and must voluntarily get paid. What does "successfully run" mean? A few major projects have turned out well. But many are failing. Otherwise why the constant need for money cash? What is a few billion going to change that a few trillion didn't?

istjohn 7y ago

It's simple. Fund healthcare, education, earned income tax credits, student loan forgiveness, early childhood education, green energy, carbon sequestration. Fund the IRS so the tax code is enforced for the wealthy as vigorously as it is enforced for the poor. It's not hard to find huge societal wins that can be had with increased spending.

manigandham 7y ago
If the answer is as simple as spend more then we wouldn't have any problems since we already spend more (than we have) every year. Pour more billions into a black hole does nothing. Programs are broken because of how money is spent, not because of how much.
- mcphage 7y ago
  > If the answer is as simple as spend more then we wouldn't have any problems since we already spend more (than we have) every year. Pour more billions into a black hole does nothing. So... you think that Warren is trying to add funding like a wealth tax, but... has no idea what to spend the money on?
  - manigandham 7y ago
    That's a non-sequitur. I said the government is bad at allocating and using funds. Do you disagree with that statement? How does poorly spending trillions get fixed by spending a few more billion? That's the problem. Solve that first, then move on to taxes.

mcphage 7y ago

> since the corporations have a much better ration of wins to losses Citation very much needed. When you look at all of the things that our government successfully runs, and all of the thing that corporations successfully run, I'll stick with governments every time.

foogazi 7y ago
What are you talking about? everything in this country is privately made Every storefront, vehicle, food item, article of clothing, the device you are reading this on, is all made and funded privately Government is a net cost on society
- mcphage 7y ago
  > What are you talking about? everything in this country is privately made > Every storefront, vehicle, food item, article of clothing, the device you are reading this on, is all made and funded privately Uh... dude, I got some news for you, about the country you live in.
manigandham 7y ago
The govt spends more money than it has, and forcefully collects money. Corporations need to make money to stay alive, and must voluntarily get paid. What does "successfully run" mean? A few major projects have turned out well. But many are failing. Otherwise why the constant need for money cash? What is a few billion going to change that a few trillion didn't?