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Linux Foundation publicly announces ban of conference registrant on social media

35 points by aaronchall 7y ago

jstewartmobile 7y ago
How outliers among outliers embed themselves into institutions to wield power far beyond their numbers... If you're someone who prefers creation and synthesis over judgement and punishment, this is what the future is looking like.
celliopia 7y ago
"Dear linuxfoundation. Can you please clarify the precise violation of the code of conduct in this case. Many of us watching these events are interested in your process and reasoning. We may not wish to support events that use unfair and arbitrary processes." [0] That tweet from Uncle Bob reassures me that I'm not the only one confused. In reading through the tweets I'm still not sure what the offense in question was (and I don't have all afternoon to sift through tweets to figure it out). [0] https://twitter.com/unclebobmartin/status/1192413363856461824 https://twitter.com/unclebobmartin/status/119241336385646182...
- alpaca128 7y ago
  I just spent 5 minutes looking for something offensive that could be the reason for the Linux Foundation throwing out someone, but the only thing I could find was someone posting a selfie in front of the Trump Tower. The person demanding his removal apparently made racist posts, so this kind of decision seems...strange with what's shown in the link. All questions for the actual reason in that Twitter thread get answered with things like "you haven't read the tweets" or "this is a bad faith argument", so it's all a bit confusing.
  - jstewartmobile 7y ago
    reminds me of what happened to crockford for "nodevember." doug was apparently a very naughty boy, but no one would give a straight answer on what the charges were.
  - salawat 7y ago
    So, I've drilled up the threads a bit, and haven't found what he said, but have seen more than enough hysterics and bad faith communication on his accuser's part to lead me to suspect this is the same genera of cancelculture folks that got engaged over the Stallman's speaking out for calm and civility in regards to Minsky. In fact, Sarah Mei is a name I keep coming back too during deep dives into tech community character assassination. All of it seems to stem from something John Sonmez did. Here's his side of the story. https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=HvjQ3Mx-jWg https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=HvjQ3Mx-jWg To be frank, this is becoming a bit of a predictable pattern. =====BEGIN CONTEXT===== Main thread from cmaxw weighing in. No issues with him): https://mobile.twitter.com/cmaxw/status/1187108668606541824 https://mobile.twitter.com/cmaxw/status/1187108668606541824 Kim Crayton's oh so enlightened response (scroll to the top): https://mobile.twitter.com/e_p82/status/1187175306010005504 https://mobile.twitter.com/e_p82/status/1187175306010005504 So... Take from it what you will. Twitter interface is terrible. =====End Context====== Just looks like another social media based mobbing to me. John isn't a saint by his own admission, but who amongst us is? No reason to be trying to cancel a person's work just because you disagree with them. This dive into social media drama brought to you by me. Trying to build context so you don't have to.
    - aaronchall 7y ago
      He says an email he got said it was "tone policing". The tone of these people is rather outrageous, and it seems all he was doing was calling for calm. https://twitter.com/cmaxw/status/1192258710804058112 https://twitter.com/cmaxw/status/1192258710804058112
  - Fellshard 7y ago
    There's been no evidence. Every dead-end 'please provide evidence' request I can find, I'm tagging with this hashtag: https://twitter.com/hashtag/LinuxFoundationKangarooCourt https://twitter.com/hashtag/LinuxFoundationKangarooCourt
praveenperera 7y ago
The best part, the stated reason for his banning "tone policing" https://twitter.com/cmaxw/status/1192261086810116096?s=20 https://twitter.com/cmaxw/status/1192261086810116096?s=20 Don't tell people to be civil or respectful or you'll get banned.
- jeesuschrist 7y ago
  This is what happens when a company or a foundation has more than 50 % of women. Men are harassed to be silent. https://www.linuxfoundation.org/about/diversity-inclusiveness/ https://www.linuxfoundation.org/about/diversity-inclusivenes...
dogeatingbees 7y ago
Frankly, the people that “don’t see the issue” are the exact problem with this industry. This guy made _three_ podcasts defending a previous podcast guest that was openly racist, misogynist, and publicly bullied folks that all of us know in the industry, with an emphasis on women from URGs. It is _still_ there for all to see. I condemn that behavior and the enablement of it. I won’t be associated with it. Y’all, this place is for everybody and, frankly, the days where your harmful ass views are tolerated are numbered. Good for Linux Foundation. They’ll gain business from this.
- madprops 7y ago
  Okay. Can you please share the link and hopefully some example timestamps of this?
madprops 7y ago
This is enough arguments to censor a person apparently: https://i.imgur.com/iO3rW8l.png https://i.imgur.com/iO3rW8l.png "Believe me that person is bad, I know. And I can assure you that other person totally agreed with him, he's bad too obvs." This is what they believe: https://i.imgur.com/zJLGkUL.png https://i.imgur.com/zJLGkUL.png Basically "Thanks for the hard work you created, but now we're taking over, sorry. We'll probably make it way worse but I hate you."
fche 7y ago
congratulations on your successful cordyception

35 points by aaronchall 7y ago

How outliers among outliers embed themselves into institutions to wield power far beyond their numbers... If you're someone who prefers creation and synthesis over judgement and punishment, this is what the future is looking like.

celliopia 7y ago

"Dear linuxfoundation. Can you please clarify the precise violation of the code of conduct in this case. Many of us watching these events are interested in your process and reasoning. We may not wish to support events that use unfair and arbitrary processes." [0] That tweet from Uncle Bob reassures me that I'm not the only one confused. In reading through the tweets I'm still not sure what the offense in question was (and I don't have all afternoon to sift through tweets to figure it out). [0] https://twitter.com/unclebobmartin/status/1192413363856461824 https://twitter.com/unclebobmartin/status/119241336385646182...

alpaca128 7y ago
I just spent 5 minutes looking for something offensive that could be the reason for the Linux Foundation throwing out someone, but the only thing I could find was someone posting a selfie in front of the Trump Tower. The person demanding his removal apparently made racist posts, so this kind of decision seems...strange with what's shown in the link. All questions for the actual reason in that Twitter thread get answered with things like "you haven't read the tweets" or "this is a bad faith argument", so it's all a bit confusing.
- jstewartmobile 7y ago
  reminds me of what happened to crockford for "nodevember." doug was apparently a very naughty boy, but no one would give a straight answer on what the charges were.
- salawat 7y ago
  So, I've drilled up the threads a bit, and haven't found what he said, but have seen more than enough hysterics and bad faith communication on his accuser's part to lead me to suspect this is the same genera of cancelculture folks that got engaged over the Stallman's speaking out for calm and civility in regards to Minsky. In fact, Sarah Mei is a name I keep coming back too during deep dives into tech community character assassination. All of it seems to stem from something John Sonmez did. Here's his side of the story. https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=HvjQ3Mx-jWg https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=HvjQ3Mx-jWg To be frank, this is becoming a bit of a predictable pattern. =====BEGIN CONTEXT===== Main thread from cmaxw weighing in. No issues with him): https://mobile.twitter.com/cmaxw/status/1187108668606541824 https://mobile.twitter.com/cmaxw/status/1187108668606541824 Kim Crayton's oh so enlightened response (scroll to the top): https://mobile.twitter.com/e_p82/status/1187175306010005504 https://mobile.twitter.com/e_p82/status/1187175306010005504 So... Take from it what you will. Twitter interface is terrible. =====End Context====== Just looks like another social media based mobbing to me. John isn't a saint by his own admission, but who amongst us is? No reason to be trying to cancel a person's work just because you disagree with them. This dive into social media drama brought to you by me. Trying to build context so you don't have to.
  - aaronchall 7y ago
    He says an email he got said it was "tone policing". The tone of these people is rather outrageous, and it seems all he was doing was calling for calm. https://twitter.com/cmaxw/status/1192258710804058112 https://twitter.com/cmaxw/status/1192258710804058112
- Fellshard 7y ago
  There's been no evidence. Every dead-end 'please provide evidence' request I can find, I'm tagging with this hashtag: https://twitter.com/hashtag/LinuxFoundationKangarooCourt https://twitter.com/hashtag/LinuxFoundationKangarooCourt

praveenperera 7y ago

The best part, the stated reason for his banning "tone policing" https://twitter.com/cmaxw/status/1192261086810116096?s=20 https://twitter.com/cmaxw/status/1192261086810116096?s=20 Don't tell people to be civil or respectful or you'll get banned.

jeesuschrist 7y ago
This is what happens when a company or a foundation has more than 50 % of women. Men are harassed to be silent. https://www.linuxfoundation.org/about/diversity-inclusiveness/ https://www.linuxfoundation.org/about/diversity-inclusivenes...

dogeatingbees 7y ago

Frankly, the people that “don’t see the issue” are the exact problem with this industry. This guy made _three_ podcasts defending a previous podcast guest that was openly racist, misogynist, and publicly bullied folks that all of us know in the industry, with an emphasis on women from URGs. It is _still_ there for all to see. I condemn that behavior and the enablement of it. I won’t be associated with it. Y’all, this place is for everybody and, frankly, the days where your harmful ass views are tolerated are numbered. Good for Linux Foundation. They’ll gain business from this.

madprops 7y ago
Okay. Can you please share the link and hopefully some example timestamps of this?

madprops 7y ago

This is enough arguments to censor a person apparently: https://i.imgur.com/iO3rW8l.png https://i.imgur.com/iO3rW8l.png "Believe me that person is bad, I know. And I can assure you that other person totally agreed with him, he's bad too obvs." This is what they believe: https://i.imgur.com/zJLGkUL.png https://i.imgur.com/zJLGkUL.png Basically "Thanks for the hard work you created, but now we're taking over, sorry. We'll probably make it way worse but I hate you."

fche 7y ago

congratulations on your successful cordyception