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Workers do not have control over the fund choices they have in their 401k. Often, low cost index funds aren’t available. This can be fixed by working with HR an

by teej 7y ago

Workers do not have control over the fund choices they have in their 401k. Often, low cost index funds aren’t available. This can be fixed by working with HR and the 401k manager but it’s often an uphill battle and isn’t guaranteed to work. Despite all that I agree that GP’s comment to abolish 401ks is throwing the baby out with the bath water.

ClutchBand 7y ago
Im certainly living in a bubble, but I've always had the option through my 401k provider to adjust my allocations among a very broad range of options.
- Gunax 7y ago
  You probably work for a sane private corporation. From what I hear, lots of employers get royally screwed. Namely school districts and other small-gov employers. There is something about public schools that just love buying into high-fee 403b.
cryptica 7y ago
In every country there is intentionally a lot of friction if you want to manage your own retirement fund. Often you need to have a minimum amount and you are limited in the kinds of investments that you can make.
- xxpor 7y ago
  Not in the US. You can open an IRA as long as you have earned income. It's essentially the same as a regular brokerage account. The real issue is the contribution limit is $5500 a year.
justin66 7y ago
> Workers do not have control over the fund choices they have in their 401k. The easiest way to fix this particular problem would be to make the contribution limit for retirement accounts a combined limit for both IRAs and 401k accounts, and to mandate that in-service rollovers be available free of charge.
s1artibartfast 7y ago
>Workers do not have control over the fund choices they have in their 401k. Cant they just transfer the balace to a 401k of their choice with better options?
Ididntdothis 7y ago
401k is stupid (as stupid as employer based health insurance). It should just be an IRA contribution. It’s insane that your employer can choose things like health insurance and retirement saving for you. They should have no business in this.
walshemj 7y ago
That's because 401k's dont have employee or independent trustees

by teej 7y ago

ClutchBand 7y ago

Im certainly living in a bubble, but I've always had the option through my 401k provider to adjust my allocations among a very broad range of options.

Gunax 7y ago
You probably work for a sane private corporation. From what I hear, lots of employers get royally screwed. Namely school districts and other small-gov employers. There is something about public schools that just love buying into high-fee 403b.

cryptica 7y ago

In every country there is intentionally a lot of friction if you want to manage your own retirement fund. Often you need to have a minimum amount and you are limited in the kinds of investments that you can make.

xxpor 7y ago
Not in the US. You can open an IRA as long as you have earned income. It's essentially the same as a regular brokerage account. The real issue is the contribution limit is $5500 a year.

justin66 7y ago

> Workers do not have control over the fund choices they have in their 401k. The easiest way to fix this particular problem would be to make the contribution limit for retirement accounts a combined limit for both IRAs and 401k accounts, and to mandate that in-service rollovers be available free of charge.

s1artibartfast 7y ago

>Workers do not have control over the fund choices they have in their 401k. Cant they just transfer the balace to a 401k of their choice with better options?

Ididntdothis 7y ago

401k is stupid (as stupid as employer based health insurance). It should just be an IRA contribution. It’s insane that your employer can choose things like health insurance and retirement saving for you. They should have no business in this.

walshemj 7y ago

That's because 401k's dont have employee or independent trustees