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Yes, it's the same kind of rhetoric that people in pretty much all religions/beliefs/denominations use about all the others to trick people into joining. Yours

Yes, it's the same kind of rhetoric that people in pretty much all religions/beliefs/denominations use about all the others to trick people into joining. Yours is wrong, ours is right. Yours is misguided, ours knows the true way. Yours is corrupt, ours is trustworthy and wholesome. Yours won't help your soul reach enlightenment, ours will save you. Yours is counterfeit, ours is real.

NotSammyHagar 7y ago
The sad thing to me that there are plenty of people in pretty much and religious group that are well meaning, hoping to get some direction or happiness in their religious study and observation. But I'm sad to say from my perspective they are mostly wasting their time. I want others to find solace, wisdom, goodness from their religion. And not kill me because I'm not in their group.
sdegutis 7y ago
It's a fallacy to say that just because some denominations say that, all must therefore be incorrect. It's the whole "I'm Sparticus" situation. There really is a Sparticus. Any serious Christain who seriously studies history will see clearly that the Catholic Church as it is now is the same as it was on Pentecost, being the true church from the beginning, and that all Protestant churches have descended from it and decided to change their doctrines for various non-legitimate reasons.
- NotSammyHagar 7y ago
  There doesn't have to be a Spartacus! I'll just say that when I was a teenager and realized that there's a reason we don't see supernatural things, and people with cell phones don't see and take pictures of ghosts, monsters, angels, big foot, the virgin of Guadalupe and flying saucers - because they probably don't exist.
  - sdegutis 7y ago
    Then you haven’t done enough research. Look into the miracles done by saints in the Catholic Church or through their intercession and having been verified by credible scientists and medical professionals.
    - NotSammyHagar 7y ago
      I have looked into it. I tried hard for a time to find evidence. The church claims miracles that are pretty suspect. Mother Teresa did great things (while also appearing at times to kind of celebrate poverty) but I never saw why it rose to a miracle of god. Look at the stories of people seeing the virgin of guadalupe, then it was kind of converted to being the virgin mary by the church, but why are they never happening where they can be recorded? Same thing with ghosts. I wish there was an afterlife, then my grandparents wouldn't be dead in the ground and ended.
      - sdegutis 7y ago
        The biggest miracle of all is the Resurrection of Jesus which was verified by many people including over 500 people who all saw him at once. There is an overwhelming amount of evidence attesting to its historicity. It’s why the Catholic Church even was able to begin! But you bring up a good question: why aren’t these things recorded or seen more publicly? Well, you know the major theory around why spam has so many obvious warning signs like major typos, unprofessional fonts, and silly plots? It’s to filter out everyone but the most gullible and desperate. God uses the same principle. He makes situations where it’s like 99.9% an obvious certainty but leaves 0.1% possibility for doubt, for those people who just don’t want to believe. There’s no shame in using a want to believe as your starting point for investigating it. Check out resources online for the historicity or the Resurrection from a Catholic point of view (the only intellectually satisfying denomination) and you’ll find that it’s so extremely probable to the point of being basically verified.

NotSammyHagar 7y ago

The sad thing to me that there are plenty of people in pretty much and religious group that are well meaning, hoping to get some direction or happiness in their religious study and observation. But I'm sad to say from my perspective they are mostly wasting their time. I want others to find solace, wisdom, goodness from their religion. And not kill me because I'm not in their group.

sdegutis 7y ago

It's a fallacy to say that just because some denominations say that, all must therefore be incorrect. It's the whole "I'm Sparticus" situation. There really is a Sparticus. Any serious Christain who seriously studies history will see clearly that the Catholic Church as it is now is the same as it was on Pentecost, being the true church from the beginning, and that all Protestant churches have descended from it and decided to change their doctrines for various non-legitimate reasons.

NotSammyHagar 7y ago
There doesn't have to be a Spartacus! I'll just say that when I was a teenager and realized that there's a reason we don't see supernatural things, and people with cell phones don't see and take pictures of ghosts, monsters, angels, big foot, the virgin of Guadalupe and flying saucers - because they probably don't exist.
- sdegutis 7y ago
  Then you haven’t done enough research. Look into the miracles done by saints in the Catholic Church or through their intercession and having been verified by credible scientists and medical professionals.
  - NotSammyHagar 7y ago
    I have looked into it. I tried hard for a time to find evidence. The church claims miracles that are pretty suspect. Mother Teresa did great things (while also appearing at times to kind of celebrate poverty) but I never saw why it rose to a miracle of god. Look at the stories of people seeing the virgin of guadalupe, then it was kind of converted to being the virgin mary by the church, but why are they never happening where they can be recorded? Same thing with ghosts. I wish there was an afterlife, then my grandparents wouldn't be dead in the ground and ended.
    - sdegutis 7y ago
      The biggest miracle of all is the Resurrection of Jesus which was verified by many people including over 500 people who all saw him at once. There is an overwhelming amount of evidence attesting to its historicity. It’s why the Catholic Church even was able to begin! But you bring up a good question: why aren’t these things recorded or seen more publicly? Well, you know the major theory around why spam has so many obvious warning signs like major typos, unprofessional fonts, and silly plots? It’s to filter out everyone but the most gullible and desperate. God uses the same principle. He makes situations where it’s like 99.9% an obvious certainty but leaves 0.1% possibility for doubt, for those people who just don’t want to believe. There’s no shame in using a want to believe as your starting point for investigating it. Check out resources online for the historicity or the Resurrection from a Catholic point of view (the only intellectually satisfying denomination) and you’ll find that it’s so extremely probable to the point of being basically verified.